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From "Fogleson, Allen" <allen.fogle...@daugherty.com>
Subject RE: RFC: Struts HTML Ajax-Aware Tags
Date Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:58:43 GMT
Yes, I think that is the bottom line, but I believe your post did
provide some good things.

1) there is some interest from other developers in assisting with such a
project. 

2) Although the initial proposal was for a specific technology I believe
Martin brought up some good points about there being a "core" framework
for other view technologies to use, and the first concrete
implementation of that framework can be Ajax.

Now on to the sf thing. I really need to write off I have some stuff
that I thought about starting a sf project for.. basically extensions of
MessageResources. (much like Jame's stuff) I really should just write to
one of the admins at struts.sf.net so I can become a member of that
project. 

Al


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:fzlists@omnytex.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:45 PM
To: husted@apache.org
Cc: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re: RFC: Struts HTML Ajax-Aware Tags

Well, the bottom-line here is that I am in fact a developer member of
struts.sf.net, although I have yet to contribute anything to it.  If I
want to persue this, that is one of the avenues available to me
(although
I don't know the procedure yet).  I don't know at this point if I'm
going
to do that, go somewhere else, or simply say to hell with it.  I was
hoping for a different answer, but I didn't get it, but that's OK, that
was the whole point of bringing it up.

-- 
Frank W. Zammetti
Founder and Chief Software Architect
Omnytex Technologies
http://www.omnytex.com

On Thu, April 7, 2005 1:28 pm, Ted Husted said:
> On Apr 7, 2005 1:12 PM, Fogleson, Allen <allen.fogleson@daugherty.com>
> wrote:
>> Jack,
>>
>> Actually my comments were in no way an answer to his proposal. I
believe
>> that under the rules of Apache we have already gotten our answer to
>> whether it will be included as a subproject of struts. To be included
>> there must be no vetoing vote by a member of the PMC. (pardon me
Martin
>> if I misquote you or I misinterpreted your intent) Martin Cooper is a
>> member of the PMC and basically gave a -1 vote on including it as a
>> subproject.
>
> Just as point of order, vetos only apply to product changes. Adopting
> a subproject is a 3/4 majority vote.
>
> http://struts.apache.org/bylaws.html
>
> And, there is not enough here to even think about voting on subproject
> status. We don't vote on good intentions. A product would have to be
> very nearly complete, and have already attracted a following, before
> we'd want to consider a subproject vote.
>
> This is an informal discussion. Frank just wanted to run it up the
flag
> pole.
>
> -Ted.
>
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