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From Dakota Jack <dakota.j...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Coupling, Struts and JSF
Date Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:19:16 GMT
I would not have written this had I received Craig's note first. 
Sometimes someone has to tell you that you are not nuts.

Jack


On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:54:09 -0800, Dakota Jack <dakota.jack@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ted, I think I may be getting where our communication was breaking
> down in my head.
> 
> Suppose X.Action --> display --> X.jsp --> submit Y.Action --> display
> --> Y.jsp.  Now, what about the ActionForm?
> 
> You seem to see the ActionForm as relating primarily to some X.jsp,
> i.e. XActionForm.java and the <html:form> on that page.  This, of
> course, leads rather customarily to two actions and two mappings and
> to the sorts of issues you raise.
> 
> Is that right?  I apologize if I am misunderstanding you.  I am trying
> to see why what you say mystifies me and I might not be getting it
> right.
> 
> If so, if I am right about what you are doing, my perspective is
> different.  I do not see the YActionForm.java as related to Y.jsp but
> to X.jsp AND Y.jsp *which could be, of course, the same) and to any
> other submission and display JSPs which are mapped to YAction.java.
> 
> If I understand your focus, it is on the ActionForm and the ActionForm
> is a bridge between Actions, leading to seeing two mappings, two
> Actions.  My focus is on the Action and the Action is a bridge between
> two siews.  So, your focus leads to ActionForms tied to a paritcular
> view and my focus leads to ActionsForms tied to two views.
> 
> I hope this is not all wrong-headed and that I have not understood a
> word you are saying.  I am a good learner but sometimes slow.  I tend
> to learn these things on my own and find out later how others think.
> 
> Jack
> 
> --
> ------------------------------
> 
> "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."
> 
> ~Dakota Jack~
> 
> "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."
> 
> ~Native Proverb~
> 
> "Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows."
> 
> ~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~
> 
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"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back."

~Dakota Jack~

"You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep."

~Native Proverb~

"Each man is good in His sight. It is not necessary for eagles to be crows."

~Hunkesni (Sitting Bull), Hunkpapa Sioux~

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