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From Duncan Mills <duncan.mi...@oracle.com>
Subject Re: Struts Web Services Enablement Project
Date Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:34:22 GMT
Didn't mean to be harsh - I was just presenting the alternative 
viewpoint that has to be answered.  Personally I can see the benefit 
that this project could offer, but the counter stance is a one to raise 
is it not?

Regards

Duncan Mills
Senior Principal Product Manager
Oracle Application Development Tools


Jung, Eric wrote:

>Wow, that's kind of harsh, Duncan.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Duncan Mills [mailto:duncan.mills@oracle.com]
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:38 AM
>To: Struts Developers List
>Subject: Re: Struts Web Services Enablement Project
>
>
>Frank forgive me here, but playing Devils Advocate, if you have clean 
>MVC separation then surely the last thing you want to do is to expose 
>Actions as Web Services.
>It is reasonable to want to expose Business Service Providers such as 
>EJB, or TopLink beans as Web Services but that's up in the model layer, 
>what's the point in pushing the access point down into the Controller code?
>
>Or do you see here a solution for all those folks who've not followed 
>best practice and have intermingled Controller functionality with 
>Business logic..?
>
>Regards
>
>Duncan Mills
>Senior Principal Product Manager
>Oracle Application Development Tools
>
>
>
>Frank Zammetti wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hello devs!  This is my first time posting here, and my first attempt 
>>at contributing to an Apache project.  I hope I'm going about it 
>>properly! :)
>>
>>In short, I have a little project going with the stated goal of 
>>allowing a Struts developer to expose any existing business logic, as 
>>implemented in Struts Actions and their subordinate helper classes, as 
>>Web Services, and do this with NO changes required to any existing 
>>application code, and as little change to Struts itself as possible.  
>>Simplicity is the key to this!
>>
>>Today I released a second version of this project to the user's 
>>mailing list, and after some feedback I think it's at a point where 
>>I'd like to make you all aware of it, and get some higher-level 
>>feedback.  It's certainly far from complete at this point, but I think 
>>even now it's in a useful form.
>>
>>My hope is that eventually it will be good enough to be included in 
>>the base Struts distro, but that's obviously a long way off, if ever.
>>
>>With all that in mind, please at your convenience visit 
>>http://www.omnytex.com/strutsws
>>
>>There you will find some more detailed technical information and a 
>>download which contains everything you need, including a simple sample 
>>webapp demonstrating the whole mess.
>>
>>I thank you in advance for any time you spend on this!
>>
>>Frank W. Zammetti
>>
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