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From Bill Johnson <petc...@yahoo.com>
Subject What's next for Struts?
Date Sat, 07 Jun 2003 20:39:13 GMT
Thanks for passing that on.  I have read it now.  So I
can infer that Struts will likely become an
implementation of JSF.  That makes total sense given
its popularity.  It seems though that there will be a
fair amount of overlap and that the version of Struts
that implements the JSF spec will be quite different
from the Struts we know today.

It also infers that companies like BEA and IBM will
have implementations of JSF and that JSF will be a
requirement of the J2EE spec.  Can anyone confirm that
JSF will be a requirement of the J2EE spec for app
server vendors, etc?

Ted, you're one of the better known Struts people
right?  What do you think of JSF?  For that matter,
what do all of the Struts devs think of JSF?

I think there should be more discussion on this topic
as I'm sure its on the minds of many more people than
those at my company.  I've CCed user list for that
input.

By the way, thanks for creating a great software
framework!

Regards,

Bill




--- Ted Husted <husted@apache.org> wrote:
> Have you read this, Bill?
> 
>
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?StrutsMoreAboutJSF
> 
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> > But isn't JSF just a spec?  So couldn't Struts
> become
> > the reference implementation for JSF, like Tomcat?
> > 
> > I'm hoping Sun or one of the Struts committers
> will
> > stand up and give all of us Struts users some more
> > guidance. I know my company is definitely curious
> to
> > know where things are headed so we can plan
> > accordingly.  It would be great if JSF came with
> all
> > the promised components and tools.
> > 
> > I can't wait.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > 
> > --- Ted Husted <husted@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>Not every Java developer is willing to simply
> accept
> >>whatever technology 
> >>Sun or the JCP brings out.
> >>
> >>If we were, there wouldn't be Velocity and
> Tapestry
> >>and Turbine and 
> >>Maverick and WebWorks and JPublish, and quite a
> few
> >>others.
> >>
> >>But, regardless of what happens next, just as
> >>dinosaurs live on as the 
> >>birds outside my window, Struts will always live
> on
> >>as the many 
> >>components we have placed in the Commons.
> >>
> >>-Ted.
> >>
> >>Bill Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >>>Well, best I can tell EA4 tells the story.  I
> just
> >>>read some stuff online today that says this could
> >>
> >>very
> >>
> >>>likely be the end to Struts as we know it.  EA4
> >>
> >>has
> >>
> >>>much of what Struts has and it will be a standard
> >>
> >>from
> >>
> >>>Sun.  Now theres a faces-config.xml very similar
> >>
> >>to
> >>
> >>>struts-config.xml, but with all the validation
> and
> >>>message resources wrapped into one.
> >>>
> >>>Is it possible that Struts will become the JSF
> >>>reference implementation kind of like Tomcat for
> >>>Servlets and JSPs.  That makes sense to me.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>
> >>>Bill
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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