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From Bill Johnson <>
Subject Struts as reference implementation for JSF
Date Sat, 07 Jun 2003 20:06:50 GMT
I agree that not everyone will go with JSF and there
will always be room for alternatives. I also agree
that Struts will "live on".  From what I can tell, JSF
(as of EA4) embodies the best features of Struts and
adds on to them.  This seems very positive.

But isn't JSF just a spec?  So couldn't Struts become
the reference implementation for JSF, like Tomcat?

I'm hoping Sun or one of the Struts committers will
stand up and give all of us Struts users some more
guidance. I know my company is definitely curious to
know where things are headed so we can plan
accordingly.  It would be great if JSF came with all
the promised components and tools.

I can't wait.



--- Ted Husted <> wrote:
> Not every Java developer is willing to simply accept
> whatever technology 
> Sun or the JCP brings out.
> If we were, there wouldn't be Velocity and Tapestry
> and Turbine and 
> Maverick and WebWorks and JPublish, and quite a few
> others.
> But, regardless of what happens next, just as
> dinosaurs live on as the 
> birds outside my window, Struts will always live on
> as the many 
> components we have placed in the Commons.
> -Ted.
> Bill Johnson wrote:
> > Well, best I can tell EA4 tells the story.  I just
> > read some stuff online today that says this could
> very
> > likely be the end to Struts as we know it.  EA4
> has
> > much of what Struts has and it will be a standard
> from
> > Sun.  Now theres a faces-config.xml very similar
> to
> > struts-config.xml, but with all the validation and
> > message resources wrapped into one.
> > 
> > Is it possible that Struts will become the JSF
> > reference implementation kind of like Tomcat for
> > Servlets and JSPs.  That makes sense to me.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Bill
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