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From "David Graham" <dgraham1...@hotmail.com>
Subject RE: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH DBCP NIGHTLY BUILD
Date Thu, 08 May 2003 19:34:53 GMT
The easiest solution would be to include the last final release of DBCP.  If 
everyone agrees on rolling back to GDS and someone volunteers to perform the 
changes, then it's fine with me.  We haven't heard from many of the 
committers on this topic though.

David


>From: "James Mitchell" <jmitchell@apache.org>
>Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
>To: "Struts Developers List" <struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
>Subject: RE: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH DBCP NIGHTLY 
>BUILD
>Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:23:23 -0400
>
>So is this a plan?  Can we roll back?
>
>
>
>--
>James Mitchell
>Software Developer/Struts Evangelist
>http://www.open-tools.org
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:59 PM
> > To: struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH DBCP
> > NIGHTLY BUILD
> >
> >
> > Regardless of how well DBCP works, Struts doesn't need to bundle a
> > DataSource implementation.  Many people use implementations from their
> > container vendor, many others use implementations from their database
> > vendor.
> >
> > There are significant problems in DBCP that are a long term goal to fix.
> > There are 3 open bugs against it right now.  If those are fixed we can 
>go
> > with DBCP.  We recently stopped bundling the jdbc extension jar
> > and require
> > people to download it separately.  It's just as reasonable to
> > require people
> > to download a separate DataSource implementation.  In this case it would
> > allow us to release Struts faster.
> >
> > David
> >
> > >From: "Brandon Goodin" <mail@phase.ws>
> > >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >To: "Struts Developers List" <struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >Subject: RE: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH
> > DBCP NIGHTLY
> > >BUILD
> > >Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:55:31 -0600
> > >
> > >How is it that DBCP works well in Tomcat and not struts? Is Tomcat's
> > >conneciton pooling services as buggy as DBCP in struts? I have been 
>using
> > >DBCP in Tomcat for some time with no problems. If Tomcat is released 
>with
> > >DBCP then why isn't it good enough for Struts?
> > >
> > >Brandon Goodin
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Joe Germuska [mailto:Joe@Germuska.com]
> > >Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:36 AM
> > >To: Struts Developers List
> > >Subject: Re: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH DBCP
> > >NIGHTLY BUILD
> > >
> > >
> > > >Everyone agrees that 1.1 is long overdue yet it seems that we can't
> > > >let go of it and release it.  It's irresponsible to hold up the
> > > >release because of a DataSource package with 0-2 developers
> > > >supporting it.  My guess is that many people won't care; if they do,
> > > >they can hop over to DBCP and get it fixed.
> > > >
> > > >I think after pool and fileupload go final we should have another
> > > >RC2 vote.  I hope that anyone who votes -1 because of DBCP will chip
> > > >in to fix it.
> > >
> > >I think that Ted's suggestion of rolling back to the
> > >GenericDataSource is the best one.  It seems that there must be very
> > >few people using DBCP with struts, or it would have more champions
> > >here and it wouldn't be slated to go out the door with a future
> > >release.
> > >
> > >At 6:14 AM -0400 5/8/03, Ted Husted wrote:
> > > >In Struts 1.0, we had our own GenericDataSource. GDS works, but only
> > > >so well. In Struts 1.1, being good citizens, we've been trying to
> > > >migrate to DBCP. For backward-compatibility, DBCP is actually being
> > > >called from inside a wrapper that makes it look like the GDS.
> > >
> > >As long as the "only so well" is less buggy than the DBCP
> > >implementation, it seems like abandoning DBCP would be totally
> > >reasonable, particularly if DBCP can't get a full release and very
> > >few Struts users are actually depending on its functionality.  More
> > >dramatic changes (like actual API changes) have already happened
> > >during the 1.1 development process...
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >--
> > >--
> > >Joe Germuska
> > >Joe@Germuska.com
> > >http://blog.germuska.com
> > >"If nature worked that way, the universe would crash all the time."
> > >	--Jaron Lanier
> > >
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