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From "James Mitchell" <jmitch...@apache.org>
Subject RE: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH DBCP NIGHTLY BUILD
Date Thu, 08 May 2003 19:23:23 GMT
So is this a plan?  Can we roll back?



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James Mitchell
Software Developer/Struts Evangelist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:59 PM
> To: struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH DBCP
> NIGHTLY BUILD
>
>
> Regardless of how well DBCP works, Struts doesn't need to bundle a
> DataSource implementation.  Many people use implementations from their
> container vendor, many others use implementations from their database
> vendor.
>
> There are significant problems in DBCP that are a long term goal to fix.
> There are 3 open bugs against it right now.  If those are fixed we can go
> with DBCP.  We recently stopped bundling the jdbc extension jar
> and require
> people to download it separately.  It's just as reasonable to
> require people
> to download a separate DataSource implementation.  In this case it would
> allow us to release Struts faster.
>
> David
>
> >From: "Brandon Goodin" <mail@phase.ws>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> >To: "Struts Developers List" <struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Subject: RE: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH
> DBCP NIGHTLY
> >BUILD
> >Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:55:31 -0600
> >
> >How is it that DBCP works well in Tomcat and not struts? Is Tomcat's
> >conneciton pooling services as buggy as DBCP in struts? I have been using
> >DBCP in Tomcat for some time with no problems. If Tomcat is released with
> >DBCP then why isn't it good enough for Struts?
> >
> >Brandon Goodin
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Joe Germuska [mailto:Joe@Germuska.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:36 AM
> >To: Struts Developers List
> >Subject: Re: Yes, it's another VOTE: RELEASE STRUTS 1.1 WITH DBCP
> >NIGHTLY BUILD
> >
> >
> > >Everyone agrees that 1.1 is long overdue yet it seems that we can't
> > >let go of it and release it.  It's irresponsible to hold up the
> > >release because of a DataSource package with 0-2 developers
> > >supporting it.  My guess is that many people won't care; if they do,
> > >they can hop over to DBCP and get it fixed.
> > >
> > >I think after pool and fileupload go final we should have another
> > >RC2 vote.  I hope that anyone who votes -1 because of DBCP will chip
> > >in to fix it.
> >
> >I think that Ted's suggestion of rolling back to the
> >GenericDataSource is the best one.  It seems that there must be very
> >few people using DBCP with struts, or it would have more champions
> >here and it wouldn't be slated to go out the door with a future
> >release.
> >
> >At 6:14 AM -0400 5/8/03, Ted Husted wrote:
> > >In Struts 1.0, we had our own GenericDataSource. GDS works, but only
> > >so well. In Struts 1.1, being good citizens, we've been trying to
> > >migrate to DBCP. For backward-compatibility, DBCP is actually being
> > >called from inside a wrapper that makes it look like the GDS.
> >
> >As long as the "only so well" is less buggy than the DBCP
> >implementation, it seems like abandoning DBCP would be totally
> >reasonable, particularly if DBCP can't get a full release and very
> >few Struts users are actually depending on its functionality.  More
> >dramatic changes (like actual API changes) have already happened
> >during the 1.1 development process...
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >--
> >--
> >Joe Germuska
> >Joe@Germuska.com
> >http://blog.germuska.com
> >"If nature worked that way, the universe would crash all the time."
> >	--Jaron Lanier
> >
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