Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-struts-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 30952 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 17:37:01 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (192.18.33.10) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 17:37:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 9870 invoked by uid 97); 1 Mar 2003 17:38:41 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-struts-dev@nagoya.betaversion.org Received: (qmail 9863 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 17:38:41 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 17:38:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 30325 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2003 17:36:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact struts-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Struts Developers List" Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 30313 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 17:36:55 -0000 Received: from f122.law15.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) (64.4.23.122) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 17:36:55 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 09:36:59 -0800 Received: from 12.252.55.153 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Mar 2003 17:36:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.252.55.153] From: "David Graham" To: struts-dev@jakarta.apache.org Bcc: Subject: Re: Short term plans Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 10:36:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2003 17:36:59.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[295A6770:01C2E019] X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N The test I use is this: Does the requested feature exist in JSTL? If so, don't duplicate the effort in Struts. This is not just my opinion, it has been discussed among the committers before. I don't think people requesting enhancements or patches realize the amount of effort required to get it into Struts. Committers have to analyze the request, figure out the code to change, code it, test it, build it, and finally commit it. Add those steps up and you've got several hours of work. *I* will not volunteer my time implementing a feature that is already part of a standard taglib. David >From: John Yu >Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" >To: "Struts Developers List" >Subject: Re: Short term plans >Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:34:07 +0800 > >At 11:46 am 01-03-03, you wrote: >>JSTL (and JavaServer Faces, when it becomes available) require Servlet 2.3 >>and JSP 1.2, so they are not even an option for a very significant portion >>of the Struts user community. Thus, it would be irresponsible to abandon >>our focus on ensuring the quality of the Struts tag libraries -- and this >>would be true even if Struts was a commercial product instead of an open >>source package. > >With respect (too :-), what criteria should/would the (developer) community >use to strike a balance, both ensuring the quality and relevance of Struts >taglibs (JSP 1.1 dependent) and migrating users gradually to JSTL (JSP 1.2 >dependent)? > >For instance, in a recent feature request: > > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17535 > >As David, the recently crowned MVC (what an acronym), pointed out the >requested feature for is already available in JSTL >. Is there an easy litmus test for Struts users to guestimate >if an enhancement is worthwhile requesting? > >regards, > >-- >John Yu Scioworks Technologies >e: john@scioworks.com w: +(65) 6873 5989 >w: http://www.scioworks.com m: +(65) 9782 9610 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: struts-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: struts-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: struts-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org