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From Benjamin Tomasini <btomas...@neteverything.com>
Subject RE: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts
Date Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:40:01 GMT
Agreed.

Part of this "kinder, gentler" approach being developed by the "Apache
Marketing Committee" means that we now all understand each other now. 
What a brave new world.

Anyway, enough filling up mailboxes with my OT posts.

Ben

On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 13:42, Phase Web and Multimedia wrote:
> It's a trade-off. Many of the great plugins and such that are supplied with
> a well developed (cross-platform) ide are far better in my book for
> development at large. I only resort to emacs/vi/pico when i am editing files
> on a server remotely. But, I am in control of all the code I write and I'm
> not writing any perl or c/c++. Straight JAVA is what I write. So emacs is
> not that efficient to me.
> 
> P.S. Eclipse is a great ide and has a format method that cleans up messy
> java code quite nice. But, it lack great search and replace features that
> emacs does have.
> 
> Brandon Goodin
> Phase Web and Multimedia
> P (406) 862-2245
> F (406) 862-0354
> mail@phase.ws
> http://www.phase.ws
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Tomasini [mailto:btomasini@neteverything.com]
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 11:15 AM
> > To: Struts Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Why are people are up on Struts
> >
> >
> > Normally a reader only in this list, but here are 2 cents...
> >
> > With a basic knowledge of Emacs, Ant, and Perl you can conquer the world
> > faster than with any IDE I know of.  And conquer it from pretty much any
> > shell - bash, X, even Windows!
> >
> > Plus, Emacs is great for cleaning up messy code.  Its indent feature in
> > java-mode (cc-mode) is quite handy.
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 14:00, Eddie Bush wrote:
> > > I can live with vi if it's forced upon me, but I much prefer Emacs.
> > >  'Course nowadays, assuming you're using an x terminal (or are on
> > > windows) both of them are fairly easily used through their toolbars ...
> > > at least, I think vim has one now (or can perhaps - nearly certain).  I
> > > suppose that's for the "mortals" among us ;-O  I just go for
> > the "arcane
> > > key sequences" personally - so much more efficient.  One nifty thing I
> > > really like about Emacs is that, sometimes I can remember the command
> > > name but not it's key sequence - and it tells you what the sequence is
> > > once you invoke it the "long" way.  So, I can keep important shortcuts
> > > in my head, and, when I run across a situation that requires me to use
> > > something that I don't recall the shortcut for, I can invoke it
> > manually
> > > and get a referesher on what the sequence is to invoke it.  I really
> > > like that feature :-)  It works great so long as you can remember the
> > > "command name" or ... at least have an idea (as it has completion
> > > assistance for commands too).
> > >
> > > David Graham wrote:
> > >
> > > > I like vi now that I know how to use it but why couldn't they put
> > > > common commands at the bottom of the screen for us mortals?
> > > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Eddie Bush
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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