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From "Dana Kaufman" <>
Subject Re: Taglibs Plans?
Date Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:47:08 GMT

Thank you for responding to my inquirary.  I guess the root of these
question come from a statement someone made to me.  They mentioned that
they read somewhere that Struts was going to be included in the next
Sun J2EE specification.  I could be wrong on this point as I have not
read anything about it myself.  

It naturally brought up the question about future planning.  What will
be avaliable via all containers in the future, how do the various tag
libs interact, what effect on one project does the inclusion of the other
technologies in the specifications, etc?

I see some overlap between Struts and the Taglibs project.  I also saw
the Standard Tag Libraries and wondered if it was the same project as
Taglibs (or the intent to make the Taglibs project the standard).  If
Struts is truly going to be part of the new speifiations, it seems to
make sense to sync up the two projects.

Dana Scott Kaufman

---- Pierre Delisle <> wrote:
> [cc'ing the struts-dev community since this relates to them as well]
> Dana Kaufman wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I just came across the Taglibs project and was wondering if someone
> could
> > answer questions about Taglibs and plan with other initiatives. 
> I think
> > Custom Tag Libraries are an important technology but I am confused
> as
> > to how the various projects relate.
> > 
> > 1)  How does Taglibs relate to Struts?  I noticed there was some
> overlap
> > in functionality.  Will these project be combined or synchronized
> at
> > some point?
> There has been "informal" talks about this. Getting the two
> communities to work more closely together is definitely a goal. While
> not all tags in struts are candidates for taglibs (because they have
> dependencies on the underlying struts framework), some of them are
> general enough to fit very well within taglibs and might reach a wider
> audience because of that. Once Struts is done with its first final
> release, and that standard taglibs hit the road, it should be
> easier to sync everyone up. 
> > 2)  What about Taglibs and the Standard Tag Libraries for Java Server
> > Pages project being worked on by Sun for inclusion in the JSP reference
> > environment.  Are the Taglib developers involved in that project
> in any
> > way?
> There are quite a few developers involved in jakarta-taglibs as well
> as struts
> that are also members of the expert group for JSR-052. I am myself
> a 
> co-lead of that JSR.
> > 3)  Will the Taglibs project be included in future version of Tomcat
> > like I beleive the Standard Tag Libraries will be?
> This is a question that would should be directed to the tomcat-dev
> community. However, I am not sure this would be a good idea since
> this could make a web-application non-portable to other containers.
> Also, since it is quite easy to include tag libraries in web-applications,
> not sure there would be a real benefit there.
> > Thank you in advance for helping me understand the Custom Tag Library
> > landscape :-)
> > 
> > Dana Scott Kaufman
>     -- Pierre

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