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Just my .02, based on some fairly lack-luster experiences with Apache Beam. tg Trevor Grant Data Scientist https://github.com/rawkintrevo http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo http://trevorgrant.org *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things." -Virgil* On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:36 AM, sblackmon wrote: > Beam appears to be on it=E2=80=99s way to being the de-facto standard for= data > pipelines. > > I=E2=80=99d like to start a real discussion about whether and how to alig= n streams > interfaces with Beam interfaces. > > To pose a straw-man theory for discussion: > > Hypothesis: Streams would benefit by replacing the interfaces in > streams-core entirely with beam interfaces. > > a) Do we agree that the flexibility and performance gains from doing so, > presuming it=E2=80=99s possible, would be significant? > b) Are there any inevitable flexiblility, performance, complexity, or > other, blockers or compromises we should discuss? > c) What arguments are there for retaining our interfaces and providing > beam compatibility in a runtime module binding (within streams) vs > deprecating our existing interfaces and switching over completely? > d) Obviously doing this would be a lot of work. What level of commitment > is there from the group to work on this? > > Steve > On October 25, 2016 at 3:47:11 PM, sblackmon (sblackmon@apache.org) wrote= : > > Regarding Beam, there have been a number of ideas and theories floated on > the list and but nothing concrete has been proposed or discussed in depth= . > > Steve > On October 25, 2016 at 10:21:52 AM, Suneel Marthi (suneel.marthi@gmail.co= m) > wrote: > > Is support for Kafka Streams and Apache Beam on the roadmap ? > --001a11406c2283fbc10541d54d3d--