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From: Ate Douma To: dev@streams.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11422a2a5533bb052617305f --001a11422a2a5533bb052617305f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Dec 4, 2015 7:11 PM, "Steve Blackmon" wrote: > > Quick follow-up re. December board report... > > There's a header on the wiki - > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014 That is the one of 2014, try the one for this year instead :-) > > [image: /!\] *FINAL* [image: /!\] > > This report has been submitted to the Board. Please do not edit further. > > Presumably we should respect this directive, be added to the delinquent > list for this cycle, and report next month. > Steve Blackmon > sblackmon@apache.org > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:41 AM, Ate Douma wrote: > > > Hi Streams team, > > > > I just realized (too late) yesterday was the deadline for submitting the > > board > > report for Apache Streams... > > > > I hope and suggest that we still provide one quickly before the end of the > > week, because it also is important to report the IMO current lacking > > development of the Streams community and the project overall. > > > > As a mentor I haven't paid much attention lately, which isn't good, and > > neither > > do I see the other mentors being involved, which I think is a even more > > serious > > problem. > > > > And I think only/mostly Steve now is churning out code, but with little/no > > mailing list interaction or discussion with others. > > > > So while possibly code-wise Streams might be doing alright (honestly: I > > have no > > clue), I see no progress at all in community development, more likely a > > decline... > > > > No releases either and I see no plan or any discussion for that matter. > > > > With this current state and lack of progress I really wonder what the > > future > > for Apache Streams is, how it ever could get graduate from the incubator > > this > > way, and if it maybe wouldn't be better for it to retire and move the > > development to github or elsewhere? > > > > WDYT? > > > > Ate > > > > On 2015-11-26 21:45, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > > >> Greetings, {podling} developers! > >> > >> This is a reminder that your report is due next Wednesday, December > >> 2nd. Details below. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Marvin Humphrey, Report Manager for December, on behalf of the > >> Incubator PMC > >> > >> --------------- > >> > >> Dear podling, > >> > >> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache > >> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to > >> prepare your quarterly board report. > >> > >> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 16 December 2015, 10:30 am PST. > >> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC > >> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks > >> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and > >> submission (Wed, December 2nd). > >> > >> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator > >> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the > >> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board > >> meeting. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> The Apache Incubator PMC > >> > >> Submitting your Report > >> > >> ---------------------- > >> > >> Your report should contain the following: > >> > >> * Your project name > >> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of > >> the project or necessarily of its field > >> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move > >> towards graduation. > >> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be > >> aware of > >> * How has the community developed since the last report > >> * How has the project developed since the last report. > >> > >> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at: > >> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2015 > >> > >> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before > >> this page is created from a template. > >> > >> Mentors > >> ------- > >> > >> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on > >> the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are > >> following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms > >> for the Incubator PMC. > >> > >> Incubator PMC > >> > >> > > --001a11422a2a5533bb052617305f--