Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-stratos-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-stratos-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B94C1175C for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 15:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45133 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2014 15:05:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-stratos-dev-archive@stratos.apache.org Received: (qmail 44989 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2014 15:05:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@stratos.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 44855 invoked by uid 99); 12 May 2014 15:05:12 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 15:05:12 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,LOTS_OF_MONEY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of madhura@wso2.com designates 74.125.82.182 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.182] (HELO mail-we0-f182.google.com) (74.125.82.182) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 15:05:08 +0000 Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id t60so7029283wes.13 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 08:04:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wso2.com; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=3HGgy1oD5AajbJm1O+FI8PzeJKt2UZWo9za2J0u39cY=; b=Q1MSCbFM3qHnMkf/kbnUmqebBVAylgH510E8M+AqiuGDXwBxii9TAWY2Xaa1MACZ+5 gJTuVh7l2Mvc7Thx0sqk3XmVhKkYWwQKQDQPPNfbGc+Qmz+ggfM0Z7iAFdyVE0e/4+/f rctUAQDpgvmuhebYDbQZKh2raq0tXhOo5D+os= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=3HGgy1oD5AajbJm1O+FI8PzeJKt2UZWo9za2J0u39cY=; b=Y0Ur0rObEfsHQBFDGWGph04ye7jY40gvISSo6oSUo5yKcL/44z+zmz9BVnxeGsOjxW LL+5A+ayweWDsWs33zLo+NkP5Dt98s9ia28Uy1CdgxOorBT6NskTKojgKvLMuVRf2lQN fPUYQ3e2ywFv3nXrycUJkxRJn7qY90V/vRNnljTBpIijPRD784Wdo/H0RnSN5+ZnssWQ Pz7rehyH9gzW+hYlePB/Bfkd1MZxf0eB6eMH5JduJCdNWgCKw5YswHFSCcurgGkvts5/ bLfOeybUOu5QimZUTxMy0hDZ9my6R9KrlLkzLY4Bq/UUJMu4mtNCrvO+M/9B+0m8I73V l5nw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl5o3MH1aXd6Z+nFUxOknkSdpdUbqp66Ki9iu2kDwC9JGDnFGfSBd8BMRHxG5TXT4kVX40T X-Received: by 10.180.107.97 with SMTP id hb1mr16247521wib.20.1399907086306; Mon, 12 May 2014 08:04:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.60.114 with HTTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Madhura Mendis Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:04:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Forming cartridge ecosystem To: Dmitry Sotnikov Cc: Apache Stratos , Lakmal Warusawithana , Paul Fremantle Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f2354f199288704f9354446 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --e89a8f2354f199288704f9354446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Dmitry, I'll send the page designs by Friday. Thanks Madhura On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Dmitry Sotnikov wrote: > Madhura, > > Do you know when the Cartridge section is going to be added to the Stratos > page? > > I am planning to start reaching out to potential cartridge partners in the > upcoming week. The section (or at least ETA and mockups) would help > tremendously. > > Dmitry > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Dmitry Sotnikov wrote: > >> *Paul*, >> >> Thanks for the blog creation. Yes, the first Welcome post would be nice >> if you can write one. :) >> >> My gmail ID is DSotnikov. >> >> >> *Lakmal* and *Madhura*, >> >> Let me know when you get the Cartridge section on the website. >> >> >> I am on vacation May 1-7, and will start reaching out to potential >> cartridge partners once I am back. >> >> Dmitry >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana wrote: >> >>> Thanks Paul, >>> >>> I will work with Madhura and do the rest (website related stuff). >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Paul Fremantle wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the ping Dmitry. >>>> >>>> I suggest we create an Apache Stratos blog at say wordpress or blogger >>>> and set it up so that any committer can get access to post. >>>> >>>> I can setup a Github repo. >>>> >>>> I won't offer to do the rest! >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 April 2014 22:12, Dmitry Sotnikov wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Paul and Damitha! >>>>> >>>>> I'll be happy to go out and talk to partners (e.g. there are people I >>>>> know at MongoDB, MariaDB, TomEE, Jetty, etc.) - but indeed we need to get >>>>> the basics in place on our end. I am new to this community so not sure how >>>>> these things can be done. >>>>> >>>>> Setting up a github repo for cartridges: who and how can do that? >>>>> >>>>> Adding cartridge catalog to the Apache Stratos website - who can do >>>>> that? >>>>> >>>>> Modifying the front-page of the Apache Stratos site so it has a >>>>> section on the latest/changed/promoted cartridges - again, who can do that? >>>>> >>>>> For blogs, I assume there is no such thing as Apache Stratos blog - is >>>>> there? Any plans to have one? >>>>> >>>>> Dmitry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dmitry >>>>>> >>>>>> I completely agree. >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstly, we need a place for the cartridges to live. I would assume >>>>>> that these aren't necessarily all going to live in the core codebase. So >>>>>> what about setting up a github repo for these. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also would suggest we start by actually creating a bunch ourselves >>>>>> and then asking the relevant teams for help in validating. So for example, >>>>>> we have already seen e.g. MongoDB cartridges, so maybe we could publish a >>>>>> Mongo cartridge and then get feedback from the Mongo team on what we can do >>>>>> to tweak it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another useful thing is from a marketing point of view would be to >>>>>> jointly publish blogs on how to use these cartridges. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22 April 2014 01:21, Dmitry Sotnikov wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest that we start reaching out to various teams producing >>>>>>> application servers and databases and help them create Apache Stratos >>>>>>> cartridges and promote them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For that, we need to have a good list of things that we provide to >>>>>>> these partner teams - so partners understand what they get. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My guess is that they would mostly benefit from technical help >>>>>>> creating the cartridges and from co-marketing their efforts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Technical is pretty straight-forward: they can use documentation [1]and our help, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From co-marketing perspective, can we add a section on the website >>>>>>> with cartridge catalog and also have the latest cartridges and news about >>>>>>> them promoted on the front page of Apache Stratos? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Obviously we can promote with all the social media channels that we >>>>>>> have. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What else do we have in terms of promoting cartridges? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no Stratos blog or Stratos newsletter, are there? Are there >>>>>>> plans to start these? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can invite them to public hangouts, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And they can contribute session submissions to ApacheCon... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anything else they will get from participating? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think once we finalize the list of gives, we can create the text >>>>>>> we can start sending out, and then have a list of the teams we reach out to >>>>>>> - between us all here we will probably always have someone who knows >>>>>>> someone in these potential partner teams. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/4.0.0+Creating+a+Cartridge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dmitry Sotnikov >>>>>>> VP of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>> email: dmitry@wso2.com; cell: +1.949.303.9653; Skype: DSotnikov >>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Paul Fremantle >>>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2 >>>>>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair, Apache Member >>>>>> >>>>>> UK: +44 207 096 0336 >>>>>> US: +1 646 595 7614 >>>>>> >>>>>> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org >>>>>> twitter.com/pzfreo >>>>>> paul@wso2.com >>>>>> >>>>>> wso2.com Lean Enterprise Middleware >>>>>> >>>>>> Disclaimer: This communication may contain privileged or other >>>>>> confidential information and is intended exclusively for the addressee/s. >>>>>> If you are not the intended recipient/s, or believe that you may have >>>>>> received this communication in error, please reply to the sender indicating >>>>>> that fact and delete the copy you received and in addition, you should not >>>>>> print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information >>>>>> contained in this communication. Internet communications cannot be >>>>>> guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not >>>>>> accept liability for any errors or omissions. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dmitry Sotnikov >>>>> VP of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>>>> email: dmitry@wso2.com; cell: +1.949.303.9653; Skype: DSotnikov >>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Paul Fremantle >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2 >>>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair, Apache Member >>>> >>>> UK: +44 207 096 0336 >>>> US: +1 646 595 7614 >>>> >>>> blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org >>>> twitter.com/pzfreo >>>> paul@wso2.com >>>> >>>> wso2.com Lean Enterprise Middleware >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: This communication may contain privileged or other >>>> confidential information and is intended exclusively for the addressee/s. >>>> If you are not the intended recipient/s, or believe that you may have >>>> received this communication in error, please reply to the sender indicating >>>> that fact and delete the copy you received and in addition, you should not >>>> print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the information >>>> contained in this communication. Internet communications cannot be >>>> guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not >>>> accept liability for any errors or omissions. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lakmal Warusawithana >>> Director - Cloud Architecture; WSO2 Inc. >>> Mobile : +94714289692 >>> Blog : http://lakmalsview.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dmitry Sotnikov >> VP of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >> email: dmitry@wso2.com; cell: +1.949.303.9653; Skype: DSotnikov >> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >> >> >> > > > > -- > Dmitry Sotnikov > VP of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ > email: dmitry@wso2.com; cell: +1.949.303.9653; Skype: DSotnikov > Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > > -- Madhura Mendis Software Engineer WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com lean.enterprise.middleware Mobile : +94 077 4681959 [image: http://c.content.wso2.com/signatures/general.png] --e89a8f2354f199288704f9354446 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dmitry,

I'll send the p= age designs by Friday.

Thanks
Madhura




On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Dmitry Sotnikov <dmitry@wso2.com> wrote:
Madhura,

Do you know when the Cartridge= section is going to be added to the Stratos page?

I am planning to start reaching out to potential cartridge partners in the= upcoming week. The section (or at least ETA and mockups) would help tremen= dously.

Dmitry


<= br>
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Dmitry S= otnikov <dmitry@wso2.com> wrote:
Paul,

=
Thanks= for the blog creation. Yes, the first Welcome post would be nice if you ca= n write one. :)

My gmail ID is DSotnikov.

Lak= mal and Madhura,

Let me know when you get the Cart= ridge section on the website.

I am on vacation May 1-7, and will start r= eaching out to potential cartridge partners once I am back.

Dmitry


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Lakmal Warusawithana <= ;lakmal@wso2.com&g= t; wrote:
Thanks Paul,

I will work with Madhura and do the rest (website rel= ated stuff).


On Tue, Apr 29, 20= 14 at 1:25 PM, Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com> wrote:
Thanks for the ping Dmitry.=

I suggest we create an Apache Stratos blog at say wordp= ress or blogger and set it up so that any committer can get access to post.=

I can setup a Github repo.

I won't offer to do the rest!

Paul


On 23 April 2014 22:12, Dmitry = Sotnikov <dmitry@wso2.com> wrote:
Thanks Paul and Damitha!
I'll be happy to go out and talk to partners (e.g. the= re are people I know at MongoDB, MariaDB, TomEE, Jetty, etc.) - but indeed = we need to get the basics in place on our end. I am new to this community s= o not sure how these things can be done.

Setting up a github repo for cartridges: who and how ca= n do that?

Adding cartridge catalog to the Apache = Stratos website - who can do that?

Modifying the f= ront-page of the Apache Stratos site so it has a section on the latest/chan= ged/promoted cartridges - again, who can do that?

For blogs, I assume there is no such thing as Apache St= ratos blog - is there? Any plans to have one?

Dmitry


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com> = wrote:
Dmitry

I completely agree.=C2=A0
<= div>
Firstly, we need a place for the cartridges to live. I w= ould assume that these aren't necessarily all going to live in the core= codebase. So what about setting up a github repo for these.

I also would suggest we start by actually creating a bu= nch ourselves and then asking the relevant teams for help in validating. So= for example, we have already seen e.g. MongoDB cartridges, so maybe we cou= ld publish a Mongo cartridge and then get feedback from the Mongo team on w= hat we can do to tweak it.

Another useful thing is from a marketing point of view = would be to jointly publish blogs on how to use these cartridges.

Paul


On 22 April 2014 01:21, Dmitry Sotnikov <dmitry@wso2.com> wrot= e:
Guys,

I suggest that we start reaching = out to various teams producing application servers and databases and help t= hem create Apache Stratos cartridges and promote them.

For that, we need to have a good list of things that we provide to the= se partner teams - so partners understand what they get.

My guess is that they would mostly benefit from technical help creat= ing the cartridges and from co-marketing their efforts.

Technical is pretty straight-forward: they can use docu= mentation [1] and our help, right?

From co-marketing perspective, can we add a section on the website wit= h cartridge catalog and also have the latest cartridges and news about them= promoted on the front page of Apache Stratos?

Obviously we can promote with all the social media channels that we have.= =C2=A0

What else do we have in terms of promoting = cartridges?=C2=A0

There is no Stratos blog or Stra= tos newsletter, are there? Are there plans to start these?

We can invite them to public hangouts, right?

And they can contribute session submissions to ApacheCon...=

Anything else they will get from participating?

I think once we finalize the list of gives, we can crea= te the text we can start sending out, and then have a list of the teams we = reach out to - between us all here we will probably always have someone who= knows someone in these potential partner teams.



--
=
Paul Fremantle
CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX = TC Co-chair, Apache Member

UK: +44 207 096 0336=
US: +1 646 595 7614

blog: http://pzf= .fremantle.org
twitter.com/pzfreo
paul@wso2.com

wso2.com L= ean Enterprise Middleware

Disclaimer: This communication may contain= privileged or other confidential information and is intended exclusively f= or the addressee/s. If you are not the intended recipient/s, or believe tha= t you may have received this communication in error, please reply to the se= nder indicating that fact and delete the copy you received and in addition,= you should not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the = information contained in this communication. Internet communications cannot= be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does n= ot accept liability for any errors or omissions.



--
Dmitry Sotnikov
V= P of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.;=C2=A0=C2=A0http://wso2.com/
email: dmitry@wso2.com= ; cell: +1.949.303.9653;=C2=A0Skype:=C2=A0DSotnikov
Lean . Enter= prise . Middleware





--
=
Paul Fremantle
CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2
OASIS WS-RX = TC Co-chair, Apache Member

UK: +44 207 096 0336=
US: +1 646 595 7614

blog: http://pzf= .fremantle.org
twitter.com/pzfreo
paul@wso2.com

wso2.com L= ean Enterprise Middleware

Disclaimer: This communication may contain= privileged or other confidential information and is intended exclusively f= or the addressee/s. If you are not the intended recipient/s, or believe tha= t you may have received this communication in error, please reply to the se= nder indicating that fact and delete the copy you received and in addition,= you should not print, copy, retransmit, disseminate, or otherwise use the = information contained in this communication. Internet communications cannot= be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does n= ot accept liability for any errors or omissions.



<= font color=3D"#888888">--
Lakmal Warusawithana
Dir= ector - Cloud Architecture; WSO2 Inc.



--
Dmitry Sotnikov
V= P of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.;=C2=A0=C2=A0http://wso2.com/
email: dmitry@wso2.com= ; cell: +1.949.303.9653;=C2=A0Skype:=C2=A0DSotnikov
Lean . Enter= prise . Middleware





--
=
Dmitry S= otnikov
VP of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.;=C2=A0=C2=A0http://wso2.com/
email: dmitry@wso2.com= ; cell: +1.949.303.9653;=C2=A0Skype:=C2=A0DSotnikov
Lean . Enter= prise . Middleware





--
Madhura Mendis

Software Engineer
WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com
lean.enterprise.middl= eware

Mobile : +94 077 4681959

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