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From Paul Fremantle <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Stratos for Graduation?
Date Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:39:41 GMT
Can I propose we therefore go ahead with a vote and put together a
resolution? I've taken a first pass at a resolution by basic cut and paste
from previous.

I'd also like to propose Lakmal as the potential VP.


Initial draft of Resolution:

       Establish the Apache Stratos Project

       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
       open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
       the public, related to providing an implementation of a
       Platform-as-a-Service foundation.

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
       Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Stratos Project",
       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
       Foundation; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby is
       responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
       related to providing an implementation of a Platform-as-a-Service
       foundation; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Stratos" be
       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
       of the Apache Stratos Project, and to have primary responsibility
       for management of the projects within the scope of
       responsibility of the Apache Stratos Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
       Apache Stratos Project:

       be appointed to the office of Vice President, Stratos, to
       serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
       Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
       death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
       or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Stratos PMC be and hereby is
       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
       encourage open development and increased participation in the
       Apache Stratos Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Stratos Project be and hereby
       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
       Incubator Stratos podling; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
       Incubator Stratos podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
       Project are hereafter discharged.

On 26 March 2014 00:45, Noah Slater <> wrote:

> Thank you Ross! That seems accurate to me. :)
> On 26 March 2014 00:50, Ross Gardler <> wrote:
>> My name came up and so my filters drew me to this interesting thread.
>> Before I comment I should point out that I have not reviewed all the
>> archives, only this thread. I should also point out that although I
>> championed this project I did not take on a role as a mentor and have not
>> been tracking the project. My opinion is therefore non-binding.
>> Taking this thread as my only source of data I see no community
>> related reason why the project should not move for graduation. There seems
>> to be a little disconnect over what is required in reporting new committers
>> etc. I hope mentors are addressing that and I trust mentors have ensured
>> releases are being conducted correctly. But from a community perspective
>> things look fine.
>> Noah has asked whether the PMC is having issues with recognizing non-WSO2
>> contributions. Noah has not pointed to specific cases where this can be
>> seen happening, he is merely raising it as a potential issue. From what I
>> can tell Noah is more interested in having the PPMC think about and more
>> clearly document the meritocratic process for this project. This is
>> important, but need not be a blocker on graduation. The PPMC will
>> eventually figure out that it needs to be done if the project is to
>> succeed. Indeed, we see evidence of actions in the PPMC to directly address
>> this.
>> There is no requirement for diversity in an Apache project, only a
>> requirement for the project to operate in a way that facilitates diversity.
>> I see no evidence of Stratos avoiding diversity.
>> Lets not forget that things can always be done better, our goal should
>> not be perfection or projects would never graduate.
>> Ross
>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
>> Senior Technology Evangelist
>> Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
>> A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
>> On 23 March 2014 10:06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Noah Slater <> wrote:
>>>> On 23 March 2014 17:10, Lakmal Warusawithana <> wrote:
>>>> > All together we have done 9 votes, 6 for wso2 and 3 for non-wso2. (I
>>>> know
>>>> > some are still not announced but all vote are finalized, hence the
>>>> current
>>>> > status)
>>>> Those numbers look much better.
>>>> (Though I still don't think we should be talking about un-announced
>>>> elections. These people may not accept yet, or the IPMC/board might
>>>> reject the appointments, and that could be embarrassing for them. We
>>>> have to be very circumspect about this sort of thing!)
>>>> I still suspect we ought to wait a little while longer to see how this
>>>> plays out.
>>> Its clear your view on this is to wait. That's fine - you are of course
>>> entitled to your view. As a long time ASF Member I personally think your
>>> view is rather narrow on this but obviously that's my biased view.
>>> According to, there
>>> are a bunch of mentors and of course we have Ross as the champion. What do
>>> the rest of the mentors think?
>>>  Champion rgardler Ross Gardler Mentors azeez Afkham Azeez . smarruSuresh Marru.mpierceMarlon
Pierce.chipchildersChip Childers.mnourMohammad Nour.nslaterNoah Slater.antelderAnt Elder
>>> In an earlier reply to this thread Chip pretty much said he feels we're
>>> good to go forward. However I will not put words in anyone's email! In any
>>> case we need to hear from the other 6 mentors too.
>>> Sanjiva.
>>> --
>>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;
>>> email:; office: (+1 650 745 4499 | +94  11 214 5345)
>>> x5700; cell: +94 77 787 6880 | +1 408 466 5099; voip: +1 650 265 8311
>>> blog:; twitter: @sanjiva
>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
> --
> Noah Slater

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