Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-stdcxx-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-stdcxx-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF45E10893 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 70992 invoked by uid 500); 6 Aug 2013 15:55:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-stdcxx-dev-archive@stdcxx.apache.org Received: (qmail 70973 invoked by uid 500); 6 Aug 2013 15:55:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@stdcxx.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@stdcxx.apache.org Received: (qmail 70963 invoked by uid 99); 6 Aug 2013 15:55:23 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 15:55:23 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of cbergstrom@pathscale.com designates 209.85.220.51 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.51] (HELO mail-pa0-f51.google.com) (209.85.220.51) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 15:55:17 +0000 Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id lf11so906531pab.38 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VbtbysOWG3TL7QP3Pn1dL8aOL3/SYJhsW6Q0QDdt/48=; b=Uc7sE+k7fWip63TAzaMLftQS/FlJ9C4v+jEIxbN/F99Q+FEJAVzmAfvzBXlyELBud5 KKIGeAM9zuP2s/R9Vd5Wx2niE46nbpA0F90qDEtZ0QdBxYifAuafH/iDtVErgS1w360E s4S+4aG4Cwux5tKlhCSaE7va/0DBxL25MpYHizy2+rbCB0pzwFSPQWsNWRuD4+HUXO01 HDlZzMY6PaVoyC1gTEcBFXBpPS1H2Yuq2hDR9aNvqxs96HfYC9V3kw4F9Wckm2BFtHlm 9GK6vD8bzKVhcorfpw6JIlyi19vCgUdhrKSXYMTUQc0wzLswd/5Uvg+C5/IjTgoFCa5O 3G+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmFZxABvsOeBkjTAevFbkcClD5Ef4Is4u3ETafVWagoBj54+F4JwghbTFkeAj4MM7NsgCh5 X-Received: by 10.68.253.161 with SMTP id ab1mr2282695pbd.76.1375804496814; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.36] (ppp-124-120-144-73.revip2.asianet.co.th. [124.120.144.73]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dc5sm2710130pbc.37.2013.08.06.08.54.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52011B38.30504@pathscale.com> Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 22:50:16 +0700 From: =?UTF-8?B?IkMuIEJlcmdzdHLDtm0i?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS i86pc; rv:10.0.6esrpre) Gecko/20120731 Thunderbird/10.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org CC: Jim Jagielski , Serdar Yegulalp Subject: Re: Fwd: [Contact] Media question References: <1A66BA13-C742-437F-9AA7-C2B0189150E5@jaguNET.com> In-Reply-To: <1A66BA13-C742-437F-9AA7-C2B0189150E5@jaguNET.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 08/ 6/13 09:30 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > The ASF was asked to comment on the move of the project to the Attic. > The below is what was sent. Wtf Jim. Are you trying to be a troll now? If you wanted your name in the press so badly let them publish it. Why are you even putting my name on this. I'm interested in open source, not open bullshit. I declined media comments and let this go. Please revise your statement to leave me out of it. (In fact I referred people to comment who would be much more likely to have something positive to say) The Apache way didn't work for this project and instead of trying to think outside the box... Some passionate people (primarily you?) decided it was better to close it. (It's no secret you've wanted to do this for a long time and why you intentionally pissed off the previous PMC.) While STDCXX at Apache has no future it's still maintained by multiple corporations. (Who are at least willing to discuss collaborating.) Will you hide behind private board meetings or can some redacted ‎ version of the minutes be released? /* I don't personally care, but maybe the press (Serdar) is interested */