Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-stdcxx-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-stdcxx-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FF3D9C83 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23678 invoked by uid 500); 31 Aug 2012 19:38:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-stdcxx-dev-archive@stdcxx.apache.org Received: (qmail 23648 invoked by uid 500); 31 Aug 2012 19:38:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@stdcxx.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@stdcxx.apache.org Received: (qmail 23640 invoked by uid 99); 31 Aug 2012 19:38:27 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:38:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: 76.96.59.243 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of jim@jagunet.com) Received: from [76.96.59.243] (HELO qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.59.243) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:38:21 +0000 Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tVgR1j0020SCNGk5DXe4zm; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:38:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.199.10] ([69.251.80.74]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tXeC1j00B1cCKD93VXeDim; Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:38:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) Subject: Re: New chair and/or attic From: Jim Jagielski In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:37:58 -0400 Cc: Liviu Nicoara Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1214EA39-7871-42CC-9B59-10CA4BA81D45@jaguNET.com> References: <503E4D8C.9050304@hates.ms> <405AE5DF-EB6E-4ABF-A3E0-C584246AF31A@jaguNET.com> <503F44F1.40805@pathscale.com> <503F5CA3.2070404@hates.ms> <503F62FA.7060905@pathscale.com> <503FDF13.902@pathscale.com> <503FFE87.2040200@pathscale.com> <5040B189.8050905@pathscale.com> <363B69D3-5722-4FB9-A17F-6D296CB25C11@jaguNET.com> <50410080.5010508@pathscale.com> <750FDF6E-ABB6-4D28-BBC1-DB6E31A6D7D2@jimjag.com> <5041055F.4090305@pathscale.com> <50410D9B.9060609@pathscale.com> To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Aug 31, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >=20 > On Aug 31, 2012, at 3:16 PM, C. Bergstr=F6m = wrote: >=20 >> On 09/ 1/12 02:01 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>> On Aug 31, 2012, at 2:41 PM, "C. = Bergstr=F6m" wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On 09/ 1/12 01:28 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >>>>> Your suggestion is that, somehow, one cannot push stdcxx as part >>>>> of the FreeBSD ports collection. And that is because it is = licensed >>>>> under ALv2. >>>>>=20 >>>>> My response is that that suggestion is total hogwash. >>>> That's not an authoritative response - To help resolve this maybe = we could >>>>=20 >>>> 1) Have Apache lawyers say the same thing via a letter to FBSD = foundation >>>> or >>>> 2) Please have this link updated and provide a reference to where = FSF has stated their revised compatibility views about APLv2 + GPLv2 >>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html >>>>=20 >>> Ummm... system library >>>=20 >>> """ >>> These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If = identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and = can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in = themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those = sections when you distribute them as separate works. But when you = distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on = the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this = License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire = whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it. >> armchair lawyer response not acceptable - Unless you're an Apache = lawyer? >>=20 >=20 > It's quoting the GPLv2. >=20 > I will not mention the irony of your "opposition" being the > result of armchair lawyering... Besides, how this is different from say, OpenSSL, is beyond me as well. (for those curious, look at = http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#LEGAL2)=