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From Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Date Sat, 01 Dec 2018 20:43:18 GMT
Hi Furkan,

I have merged your PRs. Thanks again

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 7:26 PM Rafa Haro <rharo@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Furkan,
>
> Sorry I didn't. This weekend is probably a good time for me. Will review
> and eventually merge them before next Monday
>
> Thanks!
> El El jue, 29 nov 2018 a las 17:48, Furkan KAMACI <furkankamaci@gmail.com>
> escribió:
>
>> Hi Rafa,
>>
>> Did you have a chance to check my PRs?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Furkan KAMACI
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM Rafa Haro <rharo@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Furkan,
>>>
>>> Thanks! I will take a look ASAP in order to get them merged
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Rafa
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankamaci@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and
>>> STANBOL-1476
>>> > and created PRs for them!
>>> >
>>> > Kind Regards,
>>> > Furkan KAMACI
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankamaci@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Rafa & Roman,
>>> > >
>>> > > I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can
>>> > > check them from here:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
>>> > >
>>> > > @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my
>>> > contribution.
>>> > >
>>> > > @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try
>>> to
>>> > > contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I
>>> can.
>>> > >
>>> > > Kind Regards,
>>> > > Furkan KAMACI
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hi Everyone,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
>>> > >>   1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
>>> > >>   2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
>>> > >>       Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
>>> > >>       and are willing to invest some amount of their time into
it.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding
>>> > >> these
>>> > >> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to
>>> revitalize the
>>> > >> project.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread
>>> over
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> weekend.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks,
>>> > >> Roman.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue.fan@gmail.com>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol
and
>>> would
>>> > >> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF.  I haven't
>>> had
>>> > >> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
>>> > >> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to
>>> contribute.
>>> > >> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline,
>>> but I
>>> > >> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped
to
>>> start
>>> > >> > contributing to Stanbol.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Phil
>>> > >> > ~~~
>>> > >> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
>>> > >> > <dileepajayakody@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project
>>> since
>>> > >> 2014.
>>> > >> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development
of the
>>> project
>>> > >> for
>>> > >> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit
my
>>> > >> contributions
>>> > >> > > have been very low since.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the
project.
>>> > >> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by
fixing
>>> the
>>> > >> bugs and
>>> > >> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol
active
>>> again,
>>> > >> and see
>>> > >> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > Thanks,
>>> > >> > > Dileepa
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rharo@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > > Hi Roman,
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol.
I think
>>> we
>>> > have
>>> > >> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the
past few
>>> months.
>>> > >> There
>>> > >> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at
least 3
>>> "active"
>>> > >> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar
answers: we
>>> > would
>>> > >> be
>>> > >> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing
lists
>>> and so
>>> > >> on but,
>>> > >> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like
working
>>> on the
>>> > >> backlog,
>>> > >> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned.
I
>>> think
>>> > >> this
>>> > >> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers.
Within
>>> the
>>> > >> same
>>> > >> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting
in
>>> > taking
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is
that this
>>> > >> situation has
>>> > >> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at
the mailing
>>> lists
>>> > >> is
>>> > >> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and
maybe it is
>>> > time
>>> > >> to
>>> > >> > > > archive the project.
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting
the project
>>> > into
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in
my honest
>>> > opinion
>>> > >> it is
>>> > >> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try
to find or
>>> extend
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> > > > community with new members interested in further
improvements
>>> and
>>> > >> uses
>>> > >> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect
the project.
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > Warm regards from Seville
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik
<
>>> rvs@apache.org>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik
<
>>> rvs@apache.org
>>> > >
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > Hi!
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started
this discussion
>>> > >> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the
project:
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus
was: there's
>>> > >> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing
mechanics
>>> > >> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since
it would seem
>>> > >> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion
started.
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory
review of
>>> mailing
>>> > >> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that
out of the
>>> current
>>> > 22
>>> > >> PMC
>>> > >> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and
I don't mean
>>> writing
>>> > >> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics"
of the
>>> PMC):
>>> > >> > > > > >    http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit
the project to
>>> > >> consider
>>> > >> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other
4 committers and/or
>>> > >> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
>>> > >> > > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > > Thoughts?
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback
on this
>>> > thread
>>> > >> so
>>> > >> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community
comes up with
>>> at
>>> > >> least 3
>>> > >> > > > > reasonably active PMC
>>> > >> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue
it may
>>> be end
>>> > >> up
>>> > >> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing
PMC
>>> members,
>>> > if
>>> > >> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
>>> > >> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely
look into
>>> > >> "rebooting"
>>> > >> > > > > the PMC that way.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that
Stanbol
>>> continues
>>> > as
>>> > >> an
>>> > >> > > > > active Apache project -- please
>>> > >> > > > > reply to this thread.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > > > Thanks,
>>> > >> > > > > Roman.
>>> > >> > > > >
>>> > >> > > >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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