From dev-return-9114-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@stanbol.apache.org Thu Nov 29 17:48:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id AAB5E18066C for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 17:48:48 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 92541 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2018 16:48:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@stanbol.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@stanbol.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@stanbol.apache.org Received: (qmail 92515 invoked by uid 99); 29 Nov 2018 16:48:47 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:48:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id ACAD9C1A84 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:48:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.8 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gO-mJpzPDTau for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw1-f45.google.com (mail-yw1-f45.google.com [209.85.161.45]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id D587260EB9 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw1-f45.google.com with SMTP id y194so1039068ywg.3 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:48:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=KCDsktCiwHpZaWW1MNBrfSde/i5AUE1htAyocN6dcUQ=; b=A57ikNdHEb6/ZLS5CN+fnZL9mZxUX4DKqV7GD9UHK2z3Lf3y/8iskiAYLg38CtSeRL 2yOYsJuA0d5XLi2R8/C8nruRfK//ovqVFYzc7VnCS0mw5vyfRyqh+73DntXJZ0cWJ6Pg vgD/YsJibDLO+h7JDcCjtWfaDyEMNZdbC/hKddezTtZlEM+I/ln6za1q1eHphAG5tiYQ YerxdjXwR4MBfg7VS1nRjJgkcDZZIstEjODauGDmBkDRfMQij6TJDvpto0rjKCyRUduj GyVD42q3Y57kByempGEOg9+dnMJJFWwkiZT9j+Zp8YGjJGW6ji291XmaU31jAvimsWZ3 G7RA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=KCDsktCiwHpZaWW1MNBrfSde/i5AUE1htAyocN6dcUQ=; b=gpyd6p6askNSAk83AHRtNrvgfJrCZwoPJ4kRTP1p66bqnc4uYwnH42oCJ7q16CZgWI IeR2jFEcMu4vmMhT3i8a2LDpfDGtvhLHeSWCssv7er065dvrxf74/ETigcfmG1swMOa8 1anPZhDSfEZget+g+rv0+ZzTgVoTbKp8Zs19NglOZVT9DJn8y/ZLZuO7YhEI/wQsKvBg zG4qZdIlv7eQZLSz9mb6zvWSyLyDU2RxGhOXbtpMYjEPxF0ape9VKK/N0nqoaB4jMNXn n9NbCqq78UjWP800IW3lNTZgz8nEIP4JwShvl3na70DkWCQBHrhiW5aGyArkHn2HAYDi 5o3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWaOFsCVKAxDwoWjpTCGE8ab/yECjZ1J8DF19bLLmnYIVo+CXTGp 9RjjsiShfVlJK1hMRcGXZ/RW1tcqgZh1veaxyt/qDbUM X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/U+mnW6UiWZgiMUScMIQUMOG10IqN52fSbwJiZuUDUEqQE4UhU4J5w/csHTTrENgt9U8VOI7e+ZOfpobK5OraE= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:ea81:: with SMTP id t123mr2102777ywe.496.1543510117120; Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:48:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Furkan KAMACI Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 19:48:15 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community To: dev@stanbol.apache.org, Rafa Haro Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003d00c2057bd074b2" --0000000000003d00c2057bd074b2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Rafa, Did you have a chance to check my PRs? Kind Regards, Furkan KAMACI On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM Rafa Haro wrote: > Hi Furkan, > > Thanks! I will take a look ASAP in order to get them merged > > Cheers, > Rafa > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Furkan KAMACI > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and > STANBOL-1476 > > and created PRs for them! > > > > Kind Regards, > > Furkan KAMACI > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Rafa & Roman, > > > > > > I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can > > > check them from here: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20 > > > > > > @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my > > contribution. > > > > > > @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try to > > > contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I can. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Furkan KAMACI > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Everyone, > > >> > > >> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread: > > >> 1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive > > >> 2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and > > >> Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future > > >> and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it. > > >> > > >> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding > > >> these > > >> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize > the > > >> project. > > >> > > >> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread > over > > >> the > > >> weekend. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Roman. > > >> > > >> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes > > >> wrote: > > >> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would > > >> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had > > >> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain > > >> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to > contribute. > > >> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but > I > > >> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start > > >> > contributing to Stanbol. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Phil > > >> > ~~~ > > >> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers. > > >> > > > > >> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since > > >> 2014. > > >> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the > project > > >> for > > >> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my > > >> contributions > > >> > > have been very low since. > > >> > > > > >> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project. > > >> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the > > >> bugs and > > >> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active > again, > > >> and see > > >> > > the senior developers back on the list :) > > >> > > > > >> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible. > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > Dileepa > > >> > > > > >> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary > > >> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Hi Roman, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we > > have > > >> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few > months. > > >> There > > >> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 > "active" > > >> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we > > would > > >> be > > >> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and > so > > >> on but, > > >> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on > the > > >> backlog, > > >> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think > > >> this > > >> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within > the > > >> same > > >> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in > > taking > > >> the > > >> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this > > >> situation has > > >> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing > lists > > >> is > > >> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is > > time > > >> to > > >> > > > archive the project. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project > > into > > >> the > > >> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest > > opinion > > >> it is > > >> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or > extend > > >> the > > >> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements > and > > >> uses > > >> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Warm regards from Seville > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik < > rvs@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik < > rvs@apache.org > > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi! > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion > > >> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's > > >> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics > > >> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem > > >> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of > mailing > > >> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current > > 22 > > >> PMC > > >> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing > > >> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the > PMC): > > >> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to > > >> consider > > >> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or > > >> > > > > > some of the project's active users. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Thoughts? > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi Again! > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this > > thread > > >> so > > >> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at > > >> least 3 > > >> > > > > reasonably active PMC > > >> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be > end > > >> up > > >> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, > > if > > >> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic > > >> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into > > >> "rebooting" > > >> > > > > the PMC that way. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues > > as > > >> an > > >> > > > > active Apache project -- please > > >> > > > > reply to this thread. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, > > >> > > > > Roman. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > --0000000000003d00c2057bd074b2--