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From Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community
Date Thu, 29 Nov 2018 18:26:46 GMT
Hi Furkan,

Sorry I didn't. This weekend is probably a good time for me. Will review
and eventually merge them before next Monday

Thanks!
El El jue, 29 nov 2018 a las 17:48, Furkan KAMACI <furkankamaci@gmail.com>
escribió:

> Hi Rafa,
>
> Did you have a chance to check my PRs?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Furkan KAMACI
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:51 AM Rafa Haro <rharo@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Furkan,
>>
>> Thanks! I will take a look ASAP in order to get them merged
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rafa
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankamaci@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've just created STANBOL-1473, STANBOL-1474, STANBOL-1475 and
>> STANBOL-1476
>> > and created PRs for them!
>> >
>> > Kind Regards,
>> > Furkan KAMACI
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankamaci@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Rafa & Roman,
>> > >
>> > > I've already contributed to Apache Stanbol with my 15 issues. You can
>> > > check them from here:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20Stanbol%20AND%20reporter%20%3D%20kamaci%20
>> > >
>> > > @Rafa I'll check backlog and also file new issues to keep my
>> > contribution.
>> > >
>> > > @Roman I believe that Apache Stanbol has a great future and I'll try
>> to
>> > > contribute its source code and improve its community as much as I can.
>> > >
>> > > Kind Regards,
>> > > Furkan KAMACI
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 5:37 AM Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Everyone,
>> > >>
>> > >> top-posting here to summarize a month worth of this thread:
>> > >>   1. it sounds like there's still interest in keeping Stanbol alive
>> > >>   2. it sounds like at least Phillip Rhodes, Dileepa Jayakody and
>> > >>       Rafa Haro are enthusiastic enough about Stanbol's future
>> > >>       and are willing to invest some amount of their time into it.
>> > >>
>> > >> Hence, I'd like to propose that we start a formal PMC vote on adding
>> > >> these
>> > >> individuals to the PMC in the hope that this will help to revitalize
>> the
>> > >> project.
>> > >>
>> > >> If there are no objections -- I'm going to start a PMC vote thread
>> over
>> > >> the
>> > >> weekend.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >> Roman.
>> > >>
>> > >> On 2018/10/25 02:50:03, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue.fan@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and
would
>> > >> > like to see it remain an active project here at ASF.  I haven't
had
>> > >> > much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain
>> > >> > committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to
>> contribute.
>> > >> > It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline,
>> but I
>> > >> > can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to
start
>> > >> > contributing to Stanbol.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Phil
>> > >> > ~~~
>> > >> > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody
>> > >> > <dileepajayakody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project
since
>> > >> 2014.
>> > >> > > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the
>> project
>> > >> for
>> > >> > > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my
>> > >> contributions
>> > >> > > have been very low since.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project.
>> > >> > > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing
the
>> > >> bugs and
>> > >> > > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active
>> again,
>> > >> and see
>> > >> > > the senior developers back on the list :)
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I will start to engage again as much as possible.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Thanks,
>> > >> > > Dileepa
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro <rharo@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Hi Roman,
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol.
I think we
>> > have
>> > >> > > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past
few
>> months.
>> > >> There
>> > >> > > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least
3
>> "active"
>> > >> > > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers:
we
>> > would
>> > >> be
>> > >> > > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing
lists and
>> so
>> > >> on but,
>> > >> > > > because of lack of time, further contributions like
working on
>> the
>> > >> backlog,
>> > >> > > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned.
I
>> think
>> > >> this
>> > >> > > > situation is extensible to most of current committers.
Within
>> the
>> > >> same
>> > >> > > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting
in
>> > taking
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that
this
>> > >> situation has
>> > >> > > > remained the same for months and the activity at the
mailing
>> lists
>> > >> is
>> > >> > > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe
it is
>> > time
>> > >> to
>> > >> > > > archive the project.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the
project
>> > into
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my
honest
>> > opinion
>> > >> it is
>> > >> > > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find
or
>> extend
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > community with new members interested in further improvements
>> and
>> > >> uses
>> > >> > > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the
project.
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Warm regards from Seville
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik <
>> rvs@apache.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik
<
>> rvs@apache.org
>> > >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Hi!
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this
discussion
>> > >> > > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project:
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was:
there's
>> > >> > > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing
mechanics
>> > >> > > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since
it would seem
>> > >> > > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion
started.
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory
review of
>> mailing
>> > >> > > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that
out of the
>> current
>> > 22
>> > >> PMC
>> > >> > > > > > members only one or two are active (and I
don't mean
>> writing
>> > >> > > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics"
of the
>> PMC):
>> > >> > > > > >    http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit
the project to
>> > >> consider
>> > >> > > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers
and/or
>> > >> > > > > > some of the project's active users.
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > > Thoughts?
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Hi Again!
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback
on this
>> > thread
>> > >> so
>> > >> > > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes
up with
>> at
>> > >> least 3
>> > >> > > > > reasonably active PMC
>> > >> > > > > members to make sure that the project can continue
it may be
>> end
>> > >> up
>> > >> > > > > "archived" into Apache Attic.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing
PMC
>> members,
>> > if
>> > >> > > > > there's enough enthusiastic
>> > >> > > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look
into
>> > >> "rebooting"
>> > >> > > > > the PMC that way.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol
>> continues
>> > as
>> > >> an
>> > >> > > > > active Apache project -- please
>> > >> > > > > reply to this thread.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Thanks,
>> > >> > > > > Roman.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

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