From dev-return-9099-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@stanbol.apache.org Thu Oct 25 04:50:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 0359D180638 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 04:50:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 59362 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2018 02:50:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@stanbol.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@stanbol.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@stanbol.apache.org Received: (qmail 59342 invoked by uid 99); 25 Oct 2018 02:50:23 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 02:50:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id EA68C182F77; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 02:50:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.111 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.111 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Z-s8QReEF1K; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 02:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lj1-f169.google.com (mail-lj1-f169.google.com [209.85.208.169]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 8A5265FDFB; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 02:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lj1-f169.google.com with SMTP id k11-v6so6706352lja.5; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:50:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hDWcToHufjUnxG1supqYKzi3ZVO5ZTDKoRunL9kEqtg=; b=HXKBll0IMmdNKhsdhMpzd9eutq3m0+QfX7GkX+D2JV0JMV4oHO7FMJd393TrQ4tAzQ SC4Kk2TtMEkcWd9H/qrMF/rpyg1WpHokA7QcBfDBTpI72vfy1YnGW3VoaWM9yYHPdDa4 IZs9GK/B7/31zrgpyLi29DxD/gVIcL6zn1ClXyEG79Rs9ZeHc0l3wZswboSo1m0Kb7Sx 1MD5N58WLWVlUwD9tCRdDpGZhITALwHi8fwF437jyxQ/LkOS8AQ6/k8fhm7ByThSRlbz AtPv0Mw8ZkzRpzq2mPf9aHjzBXdYjxX9ymYpBwkZQ5VeEylRJ29dwnWnGaDdTSL7fv4g fCTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hDWcToHufjUnxG1supqYKzi3ZVO5ZTDKoRunL9kEqtg=; b=UrDGO7Ln2KXx1lNPNml/xA3TC44ehpf0yTyi8rA/wGDF1rQ1uKRIvZA146sX0adQsM O/PW3dWEeeSrCKwYtgPkUMPFNO1lWgBrLSyL3FImijCGgA+3H30MTgdZechPolLNeChh 05BtM5FqOnHZdlUEMuBXiny5BH6OPlokwR28ZrAXzfzRSYYkqP8N79fXmcNKoBQd5j9F a6VcMAdEUX8NG9/G0fdhYF3/2+iAhSBrrtxE+my0uW3wAG0CBDmAhXhcn06Or+tKXnvF etQhlc74knk7B4iHvv62q6uHu1xX4HhFpe0aFW7n/XUB3Xr4vKgVCY5YAR7EwCEYZohG 9BkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIp+UAhdWy2xXP9ymBT35SR7KVAWJQR8AdUAPiBauLr3kOuDITt EaeaM/Jy4fnjI+kMh3xxNUsIINDyJYQhjdjgBA6XLQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cpHRc44Rg95rcJxSR0+gnLNGlOFLfjfQ12xhfo+IbcfykL3Z26P2vu4lSkHniJf/hqBX9eI4f2StobT81I878= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:710c:: with SMTP id m12-v6mr3319165ljc.66.1540435819552; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 19:50:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Phillip Rhodes Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 22:50:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trying to understand the level of activity in Stanbol community To: dev@stanbol.apache.org Cc: rharo@apache.org, users@stanbol.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey guys, I'm definitely still very interested in Stanbol and would like to see it remain an active project here at ASF. I haven't had much opportunity to contribute up to this point, but I remain committed to getting more deeply involved and starting to contribute. It's hard to commit to a specific level or a specific timeline, but I can say that my plan is definitely to try and get equipped to start contributing to Stanbol. Phil ~~~ This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 AM Dileepa Jayakody wrote: > > Hi Roman, Rafa and fellow Stanbolers. > > I'm Dileepa Jayakody, a committer of Apache Stanbol project since 2014. > While I was engaging in the dev list and development of the project for > couple of years, due to other engagements, I must admit my contributions > have been very low since. > > However, I think there is a lot we can do to revive the project. > Looking at the Jira tracker[1] I think we can start by fixing the bugs and > work towards a new release. Would love to see Stanbol active again, and see > the senior developers back on the list :) > > I will start to engage again as much as possible. > > Thanks, > Dileepa > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/STANBOL/summary > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:15 PM Rafa Haro wrote: > > > Hi Roman, > > > > I'm Rafa Haro, current PMC member of Apache Stanbol. I think we have > > discussed this situation a couple of times in the past few months. There > > were a similar inquiry recently and back then, at least 3 "active" > > (including me) PMC members responded with similar answers: we would be > > somehow available for bug fixing, attend the mailing lists and so on but, > > because of lack of time, further contributions like working on the backlog, > > community development....had to be eventually abandoned. I think this > > situation is extensible to most of current committers. Within the same > > threads, there were Stanbol's users that were interesting in taking the > > project out of this "blockage" but the reality is that this situation has > > remained the same for months and the activity at the mailing lists is > > minimum. So maybe yeah, probably it is a shame and maybe it is time to > > archive the project. > > > > I'm not sure which are the implications of putting the project into the > > Attic from the organisation point of view, but in my honest opinion it is > > that or, somehow, I don't know exactly how, try to find or extend the > > community with new members interested in further improvements and uses > > cases around Stanbol that could lead to resurrect the project. > > > > Warm regards from Seville > > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 3:15 AM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 9:47 AM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > a few months ago Shane Curcuru started this discussion > > > > around the level of PMC activity in the project: > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7f85aecc5180b85d888cf63a8136521739e5e1ee74ae167abd3ab9ff@%3Cdev.stanbol.apache.org%3E > > > > > > > > at the time it seemed like the consensus was: there's > > > > enough folks interested in at least overseeing mechanics > > > > of the PMC. However if a few months since it would seem > > > > that we're back to where Shane's discussion started. > > > > > > > > Now, this is, of course, based on my cursory review of mailing > > > > list and JIRA activity, but it seems that out of the current 22 PMC > > > > members only one or two are active (and I don't mean writing > > > > code active, but at least supporting "mechanics" of the PMC): > > > > http://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=stanbol > > > > > > > > I'm wondering, perhaps, if it would benefit the project to consider > > > > expanding the PMC to include the other 4 committers and/or > > > > some of the project's active users. > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > Hi Again! > > > > > > it seems that there hasn't been much of a feedback on this thread so > > > I'm expanding it to users@ as well. > > > > > > The concern here is that unless the community comes up with at least 3 > > > reasonably active PMC > > > members to make sure that the project can continue it may be end up > > > "archived" into Apache Attic. > > > > > > Now, these PMC members do NOT have to be existing PMC members, if > > > there's enough enthusiastic > > > folks in the user community we can definitely look into "rebooting" > > > the PMC that way. > > > > > > If anybody is interested in making sure that Stanbol continues as an > > > active Apache project -- please > > > reply to this thread. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Roman. > > > > >