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From Fabian Christ <>
Subject Re: It's not security, but rather multi-user vs. single-user Stanbol
Date Mon, 08 Apr 2013 14:01:45 GMT

perhaps it is really just security. Some people have the use case that
they do want support for that others do not care. That's the pattern
even if I do not understand who Reto refers to as "we" in his mail. As
a community we should ensure that all can work on the things they want

In any case, we have the process of opening issues if something is not
working as expected for others. That's something concrete. If issues
remain open for too long, we should take action. I think the community
can expect the security guys to do their best to fix things as soon as
they popup.

2013/4/8 Reto Bachmann-Gmür <>:
> Hi Bertrand
> It's not just about about multi-user. Even we would say that we want
> Stanbol only to be a stateless single-user engine we might still care about
> handling java security correctly in case we want to support our modules
> being integrated in other applications. So the issue would not just about
> doping authentication but also to significantly reduce reusability of the
> Stanbol components.
> Take for example a logging system. Typically a library that provides no
> support for multiple-user. Yet such a library has to care about not
> requiring any unexpected permission on logging.
> Cheers,
> Reto
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm trying to understand the disconnect that we're seeing in the
>> security discussions...isn't that more about the following two modes
>> of using Stanbol?
>> Single user Stanbol:
>> A stateless engine that's accessed by trusted systems, which are
>> supposed to handle security and access control by themselves
>> Multi-user Stanbol:
>> An engine that's accessed by non-trusted users and might store their
>> data, so needs security features, user management, etc.
>> Agreeing on these two usage modes might help us have more constructive
>> discussions, IMO, about features that multi-user requires but
>> single-user doesn't even want to see.
>> -Bertrand


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