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From Gabriel Vince <>
Subject Re: User story: Don't want to lose the semantic information I already have inside my CMS
Date Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:15:25 GMT

I have a related question and suggestion.

We are heavily using metadata in our CMS and considering to use
Stanbol as a semantic extension and enrichment for the already stored
metadata. Seems CMIS-RDF mapping stores only hardcoded set of CMIS
object properties (see the CMSAdapterVocabulary).

Whouldn't be more flexible to have an extendable configuration what
properties to store? Or simply store all found CMIS properties as RDF
triples. I'm currently working on this extension if somebody
interested (along with Alfresco aspect support).

Best regards

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Fabian Christ
<> wrote:
> Hi Rüdiger,
> thank you for bringing this up. Yes, we should reshape our view on
> traditional CMS and not only focus on plain text without any metadata. We
> have to think about the right ways to ensure that we do "never lose any
> semantics", like in "never lose content".
> Best,
>  - Fabian
> 2012/11/8 Rüdiger Kurz <>
>> Hi Staboler,
>> during ApacheCon in Sinsheim I had some interesting conversations with
>> Fabian, Rupert and Anil as result I want to summarize one of the
>> discussions as an user story telling a typical requirement for us as CMS
>> provider.
>> Talking about traditional Content Management Systems and assuming that
>> they don't store semantic informations is not correct. For example CMS
>> Systems already deliver RDFa annotated HTML, nearly all systems are
>> providing some tagging/categorizing mechanism. Specially OpenCms provides a
>> generic approach to define a structured content and therefore we have the
>> information that a specific field/item of a content has a specified type
>> and a defined label. E.g. A technology event named ApacheCon takes place in
>> Sinsheim from 05. Nov until 08. Nov 2012 is the information that is already
>> stored in OpenCms. More over OpenCms is able to connect that event with all
>> speakers/persons that will make a presentation on that event, ...
>> What we would like to achieve is not only a plain text enhancement more
>> over we are interested in telling Stanbol all informations and associations
>> we already know. In other words we absolutely don't want to lose the
>> semantic information that is already existent in OpenCms.
>> A good starting point would be a REST endpoint providing the ability to
>> retrieve a RDFa annotated HTML document and than extracts the RDFa in order
>> to store those inside the semantic-index/entity-hub/... as I previously
>> suggested on the list under the subject "Extend stanbol content hub for
>> RDFa support". Maybe the content hub is not the right component, but the
>> requirement of RDFa extraction is still existent.
>> --
>> Kind Regards,
>> Rüdiger.
>> -------------------
>> Rüdiger Kurz
>> Alkacon Software GmbH  - The OpenCms Experts
> --
> Fabian

Gabriel Vince
Senior Consultant

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