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From: Enrico Daga <enricodaga@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:48:06 +0100
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Subject: Re: [IKS] Persistence Store, Apache Stanbol Migration
To: stanbol-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Fabian Christ <christ.fabian@googlemail.com>
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Hi,
I have compiled and run the code from the lite launcher, but then I do
not know what to do to check the functionalities :)
Asked for /presistencestore and got a NOT_FOUND message.

some comments

On 1 March 2011 11:49, Fabian Christ <christ.fabian@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> looking at the large interface of
> org.apache.stanbol.persistencestore.api.IPersistenceStore I get the
> impression that the persistence store is for storing ontologies only.
I'm can't say which is the intent, but some ontology editing rest
service is something missing at the moment in stanbol.

> On the other hand we have the
> org.apache.stanbol.enhancer.servicesapi.Store interface to store and
> retrieve ContentItems.
The difference, if I understood correctly, is that clerezza graphs are
edited as ontologies, instead of generic RDF graphs, thus applying the
OWL model.
>
> Are these two things related or is the aim of the persistence store
> somehow different? Or is the persistencestore something that
> can/should be used in combination with KReS?
I think we could relate such feature with kres. The ontology network
manager has the capability to group ontologies and to serve them as a
single graph, for example, but has no direct editing facility. The two
components can interoperate by sharing the clerezza store, so
ontologies stored in clerezza can be edited by the persistencestore,
combined by the ontology network manager and then served to the
reasoners component.

I see also an overlap between the reasoning capabilities of kres and
the persistence store, which we must overcome in the future (by taking
the best of the two implementation in one single component, :) ).

Enrico

> Some words about the
> goals would help to review the components.
>
> Best,
> =C2=A0- Fabian
>
> 2011/3/1 Alessandro Adamou <adamou@cs.unibo.it>:
>> Sorry, I can't read stanbol-private indeed. I was just replying-all.
>>
>> Ok then, switching to stanbol-dev.
>>
>> Sorry again,
>> Alessandro
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/11 9:27 AM, Enrico Daga wrote:
>>>
>>> I am moving this discussion to stanbol-dev, since it is related to
>>> technical things and do not make sense to have it in the private list.
>>>
>>> I am guessing both Alessandro and Cihan did not read the advertisement
>>> to move the conversation, do they read the stanbol-private list?
>>>
>>> Enrico
>>>
>>> On 28 February 2011 20:44, Bertrand Delacretaz<bdelacretaz@apache.org>
>>> =C2=A0wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Enrico Daga<enricodaga@gmail.com>
>>>> =C2=A0wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Please check that both Suat and Alessandro are in the stanbol-private
>>>>> list. I'm not sure about that...
>>>>
>>>> No - please DO NOT USE the stanbol private list to discuss technical
>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>> Those discussions belong on the dev list, or if they must be
>>>> restricted to IKS folks, on IKS internal lists.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> -Bertrand
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 February 2011 18:19, Alessandro Adamou
>>>>> <alessandro.adamou@istc.cnr.it> =C2=A0wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Cihan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've updated to r1283 and now the persistence store compiles fine wi=
th
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> tests successful on my settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for fixing that so speedily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/28/11 4:27 PM, Alessandro Adamou wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Cihan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, we are reviewing your code right now with KReS integration =
in
>>>>>>> mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now I am having a compilation issue, due to a missing icu4j
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> apparently requested by jena. I'll investigate further and let you
>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alessandro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/28/11 10:16 AM, Cihan Cimen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have refactored persistence store [1] at google code sandbox.
>>>>>>>> Package
>>>>>>>> names, group ids, artifact ids and dependencies are renamed from
>>>>>>>> eu.iksproject to org.apache.stanbol. Jersey endpoint is separated =
as
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> module with artifact id org.apache.stanbol.persistencestore.web . =
How
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> we proceed with persistence store Apache Stanbol migration? It wou=
ld
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> great if you review the changes. We are looking for your comments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SRDC Team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/iks-project/source/browse/#svn%2Fsandbox%=
2Fpersistencestore
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alessandro Adamou
>>>>>> Semantic Technology Laboratory (STLab)
>>>>>> Institute for Cognitive Science and Technology (ISTC)
>>>>>> National Research Council (CNR)
>>>>>> Via Nomentana 56, Rome - Italy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Enrico Daga
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.enridaga.net
>>>>> skype: enri-pan
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Fabian
>


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