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From Sean Busbey <>
Subject Re: Foundation policy on releases and Spark nightly builds
Date Mon, 13 Jul 2015 02:52:34 GMT
Please note that when the policy refers to "developers" it means the
developers of the project at hand, that is participants on the dev@spark
mailing list.

As I stated in my original email, you're welcome to continue the discussion
on the policy including the definition of developers on general@incubator.
But please comply with foundation policy before seeking to have it changed.

Just to set expectations, "this feature was specifically requested by
developers from other projects that integrate with Spark" sounds like
exactly the kind of thing the policy seeks to prevent. The standing
guidance is "release more often" if downstream projects need to integrate
with features faster.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Wendell <> wrote:

> Thanks Sean O. I was thinking something like "NOTE: Nightly builds are
> meant for development and testing purposes. They do not go through
> Apache's release auditing process and are not official releases."
> - Patrick
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Sean Owen <> wrote:
> > (This sounds pretty good to me. Mark it developers-only, not formally
> > tested by the community, etc.)
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Patrick Wendell <>
> wrote:
> >> Hey Sean B.,
> >>
> >> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I think putting them on the
> >> developer wiki would substantially decrease visibility in a way that
> >> is not beneficial to the project - this feature was specifically
> >> requested by developers from other projects that integrate with Spark.
> >>
> >> If the concern underlying that policy is that snapshot builds could be
> >> misconstrued as formal releases, I think it would work to put a very
> >> clear disclaimer explaining the difference directly adjacent to the
> >> link. That's arguably more explicit than just moving the same text to
> >> a different page.
> >>
> >> The formal policy asks us not to include links "that encourage
> >> non-developers to download" the builds. Stating clearly that the
> >> audience for those links is developers, in my interpretation that
> >> would satisfy the letter and spirit of this policy.
> >>
> >> - Patrick
> >>


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