Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-spark-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-spark-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D0DB10929 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 88605 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2014 20:36:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spark-dev-archive@spark.apache.org Received: (qmail 88567 invoked by uid 500); 20 Feb 2014 20:36:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@spark.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@spark.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@spark.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 88559 invoked by uid 99); 20 Feb 2014 20:36:34 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:36:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of andykonwinski@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.41 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.215.41] (HELO mail-la0-f41.google.com) (209.85.215.41) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 20:36:28 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id mc6so1734436lab.28 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:36:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=b25fzHULpO9hkFWEEwZeSV3vBCeBN2U3skpNVp5pqCU=; b=AochRcNVC5lmtF8APKiaMZ+Bjuua2AFKfaggRZvHU/M381A9i+G/WZtr1FjM4GVl8E hXFg2yo5DHEoc2MvG1fV70lL/dx4hXJUJJPG3zLTA8gudLqlHUb1Lbt7BoT9xedpRFHg d4KyaYXNpErUQhe7RWFN1H36ladopYmKghVplMLS7omKmhv65W9jvexLVUHnGB1yvX2e amu4HMQ41Ka5gW+nqcBjSaSzLfM9eGog4bareja4I0A1nYqy2bJyW6bACBxwABgKgoam XE3doPl19bbV8UHk8mHfTEB6OY8RjHvKiKCcGXKwfE+DWzC2AH8FBcoo2HjYfrtuQKey l2/Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.142.40 with SMTP id rt8mr2183181lbb.52.1392928568484; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.128.165 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:36:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <369A8BE4-85BF-4D6B-BD66-2E247377645F@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 12:36:08 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Signal/Noise Ratio From: Andy Konwinski To: "dev@spark.incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37ae485a94204f2dc74e2 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11c37ae485a94204f2dc74e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That is a very valid point about the list archives (which a mail filter doesn't address and which impacts the community in a negative way). As of today we are a Top Level Project so I think we have a little more autonomy for this sort of dev vs separate list decision. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Ethan Jewett wrote: > Is there anything stopping us from using a different list, segregated from > the dev list? The Github emails significantly reduce the signal-noise ratio > of this list, and while it is possible (but annoying) to filter them out in > our individual inboxes, it makes the archives of the list much less usable > in many ways. > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Aaron Davidson > wrote: > > > This is due, unfortunately, to Apache policies that all > development-related > > discussion should take place on the dev list. As we are attempting to > > graduate from an incubating project to an Apache top level project, there > > were some concerns raised about GitHub, and the fastest solution to avoid > > conflict related to our graduation was to CC dev@ for all GitHub > messages. > > Once our graduation is complete, we may be able to find a less noisy way > of > > dealing with these messages. > > > > In the meantime, one simple solution is to filter out all messages that > > come from git@git.apache.org and are destined to > > dev@spark.incubator.apache.org. > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Gerard Maas > > wrote: > > > > > +1 please. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Michael Ernest > > >wrote: > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Heiko Braun < > ike.braun@googlemail.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't it be better to move the github messages to a dedicated > > email > > > > > list? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Heiko > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Michael Ernest > > > > Sr. Solutions Consultant > > > > West Coast > > > > > > > > > > --001a11c37ae485a94204f2dc74e2--