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auth=pass smtp.auth=2001:678:76c:1:3996::58@out.mailshover.nl X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Class: unsure X-Spampanel-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.50) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: Mvzo4OR0dZXEDF/gcnlw0etK79GjTETSC9a1ypZ8nc2pSDasLI4SayDByyq9LIhVuONaXmAZ8aD7 psdkEevjokTNWdUk1Ol2OGx3IfrIJKyP9eGNFz9TW9u+Jt8z2T3KsKrcorgI4Txdjed//m1no4i7 VZ0GltnnT44FK5SnJQ/h7cPx5extRYvlNCSsCzNsB6Ngrg4QU4EP4UaW8AjohibBBAlbwvlyLuB3 yjVjw6NxyJjbPiGrtKpcAmsAajDkg95Xrn8LwsgM4l5jteVInSzf1H4Br854mPJ1qx8la7QrnvUy zoTfAGEbL5I354EAHC3WJ+nBEEKp9SYx3UHHofr0N+xjIcHYnxDa1oYUTLIUx7MG2wf4WvmVq0gI vEpMKlgIpDHEsUwFp/EQr4nhhKoxv4F2QGkYdV+i1XrUX9mWCIh6nwoBuMKwN8OP5EE2CsQxwPST fSeJOF2atdSUJHb4X4zitrfPBPFMBpGtu2zjdIeNjD32x69yEJAuOyKTvvE/X9f4ikS6v/cnqp1T bBmSvC6qJad8oDRDO7zv2HxNt4e1cG9u1i83cm6y0Q/EJCCjvLtjeR4FBGShqnruuexBtk7LXuMV DGpuNJW7+4DXzXmHaN80JC+nfH561Te/6BtpbmdpMLvM58ZB4GVvZfvg7iEFLP+SSY+Av5+AiC45 Hi/jldpDVED/jowV07rUlE2Npn0BX5EQrdXUeuD447FLTemXeJCYTZyzu2FS455nqyi8Y3HeJvQv bkaNa+OSRcC7lV7wTtQeF0pcA6DbB1PXui7wwS6l418MU/CaTD9fS9s5XUYLi1ZJ0wR9fSpmT74Z EqLd8l9FM+v8+4kcTdlP2aJVHKPrNO82yFMPjDhsvn9H9eZlGekZEXyL0g1zb5wQ03gcDwt49G82 la0zZY0jTkiYrWOvxCGPAbGHxzdvA3QEKTMFvUWB5kl7tpOKYhqxqJXjRiisWVf8PjcSOl7W5Wla egZm0jyMFrzxoawlCkSujm58a/xB+XC1kCc6GbRbObJOWaPWcg726ZQVCFEwH/+tAvZxJd8OWGYN vdks0ueeSQv3iRNCdtD1uwyAaBAigBxNcbzg+xFJ4z/wwDRpDJj0qsQgIvM9kcy1oxB49DjiWowO nKvI8aF4jzAuqaYa6Uf8306ubQrvrV/zCz2aL4VtHBnLdf59BtpcNhs= X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@arg-plspam-c1n0.mailshover.nl shanew@shanew.net writes: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2020, Axb wrote: > >> On 7/10/20 8:31 PM, Bill Cole wrote: >>> The SpamAssassin Project has a particular self-interest in attracting >>> contributors from a diversity of cultures, because we are always at risk >>> of mislabelling a pattern of letters or words as 'spammy' when in fact it >>> is entirely normal in a cultural context other than those of the existing >>> contributors to the project. C >> >> From what I see, until now, only two ppl of the SpamAssasin project >> have supported this motion and intend to impose this quatsch to the >> rest of the world. >> Voices against these changes have been politely ignored. > > The danger of judging the world only by what is within your sight is > that your field of vision is limited, and there are any number of > explanations for why what you see is not representative of the > whole. Maybe giving in to a very small but very loud and aggressive minority is even worse. > Maybe those who agree feel no need to comment. Maybe a lot of people > on either side of the issue want to avoid adding more noise to a list > that's about SpamAssassin. Maybe a lot of people recognized this > wasn't a "motion" or a request for comment at all, but rather notice > of a change to code. Or, as you yourself mention, maybe a lot of > people are just politely ignoring the negative voices. You are doing here what you accuse the people you do not agree with. Are you a democrat. ;-) -- Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof