Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3D0200C1D for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:25:00 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 7BF4D160B61; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 9880A160B52 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:24:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 77680 invoked by uid 500); 16 Feb 2017 17:24:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 77670 invoked by uid 99); 16 Feb 2017 17:24:53 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id E799E186128 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.999, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_SBL=4, URIBL_SBL_A=0.1] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CykQXsZcv8w4 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fantomas.fantomas.sk (fantomas.fantomas.sk [62.168.95.114]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id A56FB5F23F for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fantomas.fantomas.sk (uhlar@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fantomas.fantomas.sk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4+deb7u1) with ESMTP id v1GHOci5021628 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:24:38 +0100 Received: (from uhlar@localhost) by fantomas.fantomas.sk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id v1GHOc05021627 for users@spamassassin.apache.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:24:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: fantomas.fantomas.sk: uhlar set sender to uhlar@fantomas.sk using -f Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:24:38 +0100 From: Matus UHLAR - fantomas To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Fastest listing RBL ? Message-ID: <20170216172438.GA19500@fantomas.sk> Mail-Followup-To: users@spamassassin.apache.org References: <20170215035322.23404.39D2E6AE@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <73543710-43e8-f97b-2db3-9b0078568431@BUC.com> <20170216050905.27605.0FE7E9F2@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) archived-at: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 17:25:00 -0000 >> On 2017-02-15 16:30, Tom Hendrikx wrote: >>> Note that the period that you describe as 'seen by SA a bit later' is >>> typically less than a second. >On 16-02-17 06:22, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> Not in my case. I have a custom Exim configuration where I >> intentionally wait for a period of time (currently 4 minutes) between >> SMTP acceptance and delivery (SA runs at delivery time), precisely >> because I want to give all the collaborative mechanisms the maximum >> chance to kick in. On 16.02.17 09:57, Tom Hendrikx wrote: >Why are you keeping mail in your queue, when you could also use >greylisting and achieve roughly the same delivery delay? Except that >lots of spambots don't understand greylisting and will never return for >the second delivery? And that you don't get a full queue when something >weird happens? this can be used in addition to spambots. Because of blacklists and other tricks (like greylist), the very common for spammer is to use others mailservers. processing delay can give some little advantage so that things like DCC (if you report at erceive time, but check at processing time) can hit between. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uhlar@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. (R)etry, (A)bort, (C)ancer