Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04E0117354 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 39068 invoked by uid 500); 29 Sep 2015 11:08:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 39036 invoked by uid 500); 29 Sep 2015 11:08:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 39026 invoked by uid 99); 29 Sep 2015 11:08:17 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:08:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 61905C082C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:08:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.121 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=googlemail.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LwrYPiVVfdJl for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 7C742439CE for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 11:08:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicge5 with SMTP id ge5so145041500wic.0 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 04:08:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ceznQhyITDc4bIxQ8zXRY53LpAC79ugs9qd2B9kGDg=; b=X4NwRsICKLl/vvjkH402LKeSimTIa1bzI3DxMLOB4oqCo5cyZBs8rPCuXkux7QiL9N il6ZkwYzYt0PXwR+2ZDyRnxxENL0lN0MXfnpHOR3cyO/XRP9AWbdGBpT6xZMq66Neh6D gs3ddSE98Hd79SMYxmYDjhskAK/d3RaGgdT1z3dnUkyXkaugcWguiMhTix1stU61bYtq FVT4ZEEAps6DDEjkmfD2t764G9uay+2PXTpwHsOs0K5pRfrGwm5vNnOTOPYOIk+W/co+ RwX0bPMwvHtAuzYWyvu6amS7TUwe9OGlJ16bxsx8L+5Kdjpv1bAnkBbjJsmxykFL+hxh SeMg== X-Received: by 10.180.187.180 with SMTP id ft20mr24526152wic.78.1443524895684; Tue, 29 Sep 2015 04:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([90.195.198.255]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bs8sm23324443wjc.47.2015.09.29.04.08.14 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Sep 2015 04:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 12:07:54 +0100 From: RW To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Add "may be forged" minor rule? Message-ID: <20150929120754.40f19692@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <5609DB5B.3030404@hireahit.com> References: <8F0E0024-FF89-46C0-BFEA-BCAC7E196C24@3phase.com> <56099EF9.4070907@thelounge.net> <5609DB5B.3030404@hireahit.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.12.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:29:15 -0700 Dave Warren wrote: > You might also want to see if you can avoid greylisting some big > senders. There is zero advantage in greylisting Google, Outlook.com, > Outlook 365, Yahoo, AOL, etc, as you know they're real mail servers > and you know they will retry. For senders that send a large amount of > good mail, content filtering is worthwhile, but greylisting won't do > anything but potentially delay legitimate traffic. That's not entirely true because there's scope for URIs and deep IP addresses to get listed during the delay, and Bayes to learn from spamtrap addresses.