Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F35CB1779F for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37450 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2015 14:16:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 37419 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2015 14:16:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 37408 invoked by uid 99); 24 Apr 2015 14:16:37 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:16:37 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: message received from 54.164.171.186 which is an MX secondary for users@spamassassin.apache.org) Received: from [54.164.171.186] (HELO mx1-us-east.apache.org) (54.164.171.186) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:16:31 +0000 Received: from mail.thelounge.net (mail.thelounge.net [91.118.73.15]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id EE99343CA1 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 14:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <553A5028.3070207@thelounge.net> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 16:16:08 +0200 From: Reindl Harald Organization: the lounge interactive design User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: v=spf1 +all References: <20150423192408.Horde.7FoZOWMmAsch2e8cMYEJeQ7@horde.andreasschulze.de> <5d7870666f83aa0dd9af74c2b0e67e55@junc.eu> <20150424091347.2ef1cc45@hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com> <553A4279.8020701@thelounge.net> <20150424092230.6ac5e300@hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com> <553A4747.2040000@thelounge.net> <20150424095058.4549c849@hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com> <553A4B66.6010803@thelounge.net> <20150424141130.GB12337@fantomas.sk> In-Reply-To: <20150424141130.GB12337@fantomas.sk> OpenPGP: id=13540402D67A7F71C6E974EA866063CF7F780279; url=https://arrakis.thelounge.net/gpg/h.reindl_thelounge.net.pub.txt Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GKffKIabF6fQcfXhxUer03nkO5X7kgXTD" X-Spam-Report: ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Old-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5, tag-level=7.8, block-level=8.0 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GKffKIabF6fQcfXhxUer03nkO5X7kgXTD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 24.04.2015 um 16:11 schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: >>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 15:38:15 +0200 >>> Reindl Harald wrote: >>>> well, and how becomes SPF part of the game in case of a throw-away >>>> domain as long as "score SPF_NONE 0" - why in the world should a >>>> spammer add a TXT record to a throw-away domain? > >> Am 24.04.2015 um 15:50 schrieb Dianne Skoll: >>> Ummm.... are you really that unclear on the concept? I'll explain it= >>> carefully: >>> >>> Spammers know that (some) filters filter less aggressively than norma= l >>> on an SPF "pass". So they register a throwaway domain and use that >>> in the envelope sender. They publish a TXT record for that domain to= >>> ensure they get an SPF pass. >>> >>> There. That wasn't so hard, was it? > > On 24.04.15 15:55, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and how does that care a SA setup? > > SA setup will detect such domains and will score mail positively. > Is there something other to explain? i don't really and everybody who pretends the opposite should be quiet=20 in the future when it comes to highly false positive prone rules with=20 scores of 1.5 or even higher --GKffKIabF6fQcfXhxUer03nkO5X7kgXTD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlU6UCgACgkQhmBjz394AnlAegCdHkL/e9FECv3spxIqr0bDNbVc CNwAnjTtrNrXr5MbbK8lMTdSIuD1iQjY =MqQL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GKffKIabF6fQcfXhxUer03nkO5X7kgXTD--