Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 802C3D934 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99910 invoked by uid 500); 17 Sep 2012 17:00:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 99854 invoked by uid 500); 17 Sep 2012 17:00:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 99847 invoked by uid 99); 17 Sep 2012 17:00:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:00:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of darxus@chaosreigns.com designates 64.71.152.40 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.71.152.40] (HELO panic.chaosreigns.com) (64.71.152.40) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:00:41 +0000 Received: by panic.chaosreigns.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6CF16CD282; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:00:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=chaosreigns.com; s=mail; t=1347901220; bh=3FiYDxUs8o2d5LqgCVVZL0J5J1UQhb5RUP6J+PCGL18=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=CBbngB6qUk48qpeeZo+zWSJU5P2MLNuI17k9MR6/MILcXLV1LJWRnjGwFJmcteu1Y 0PJkoninWiNiqQOQHambLyxNBirLXzI6ZlIEbC66CYFIEa+9+XuRapNLzK4RIBPSL8 hiFVeV6EKQVZQaXVJd1yq1xGGzBLSlWKSAAZCHUg= Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:00:20 -0400 From: darxus@chaosreigns.com To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Optimizing scoring Re: Exclude from RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED Message-ID: <20120917170020.GY23916@chaosreigns.com> References: <1347450811.17793.2.camel@tardis> <5051EFAC.80303@hireahit.com> <20120915104714.GA21782@work-lp.shlink.de> <1359447768.20120916082452@fullbore.co.uk> <5055806C.9020900@hireahit.com> <1116365356.20120916083747@fullbore.co.uk> <505584CF.6020005@hireahit.com> <1347794659.3768.4.camel@tardis> <50573934.5080309@vianet.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50573934.5080309@vianet.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 09/17, Kris Deugau wrote: > As an ISP mail admin, I **CANNOT** afford to block legitimate mail > from any source, and if I see a report that a legitimate mail was > blocked by any local rules or DNSBL data, I change the local rule or > delete the offending local DNSBL entry ASAP. Some times I envy the data available to those of you with users. If you can get 100,000 spams, and 100,000 non-spams together, you could run the SA results through the re-scorer used to generate sa-updates, and have scores fully optimized for your own users. And then you could give that data to the SA project to make it more accurate for everybody else. I still feel like there's some good opportunity along these lines for shared bayes. -- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." - H. L. Mencken http://www.ChaosReigns.com