Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72EC262A6 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82100 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jul 2011 12:02:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 81656 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jul 2011 12:02:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 81642 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jul 2011 12:02:26 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:02:26 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dfs@roaringpenguin.com designates 70.38.112.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [70.38.112.54] (HELO colo3.roaringpenguin.com) (70.38.112.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:02:19 +0000 Received: from vanadium.roaringpenguin.com (vanadium.roaringpenguin.com [192.168.10.23]) by colo3.roaringpenguin.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p66C1vMO014262 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:01:57 -0400 Received: from charlie.roaringpenguin.com ([192.168.5.2]) by vanadium.roaringpenguin.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p66C1tk8014895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:01:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:00:05 -0400 From: "David F. Skoll" To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: DUL/DUL+ redesign to improve DNS cache hit ratio [SA v. MTA] Message-ID: <20110706080005.103f978e@charlie.roaringpenguin.com> In-Reply-To: <8h7hdk18fn+B76@austin.huge.strangled.net> References: <4E1199F7.9010908@gmail.com> <4E11A960.6010305@gmail.com> <20110704092419.36e1936d@hydrogen.roaringpenguin.com> <4E138178.7000604@gmail.com> <20110705185532.07478914@shishi.roaringpenguin.com> <8h7hdk18fn+B76@austin.huge.strangled.net> Organization: Roaring Penguin Software Inc. X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=roaringpenguin.com; h=date :from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=beta; bh=vbTsWznx1Yc5 AS7nUpxd2vyQZk8=; b=H0P51pjp54afT+PZeJovR+HTFGPqyCVSgaxRsYxoIh33 BGunyH5kVZ9zPyZoaRcJePd085ulymkLWmEg4AlKvD8UI0YMlHth59fKM2tY9XSo Yk5DnFU7zq2oVtjTcBGixWAMvD88iTeWnCL3L/O3Pmr8ofTQ7Ym5ccr4PzPhrao= X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.168.7.18 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 192.168.10.23 X-Spam-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanIt-Geo: No geolocation information available for 192.168.10.23 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing (inherits from default) X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: SQVyZJxqklY5buiWXYCN4T/BjiM X-CanIt-Archived-As: base/20110706 / 01F4A1VWC X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:15:47 +0200 Andrzej Adam Filip wrote: > It may improve performance e.g. in case of hundredths mail servers in > a data/co-location center using shared forwarder and rejecting on > first DNSBL hit. Somehow I doubt buying data for such "reseller" > configuration is legally encouraged by paid DNSBL operators. This is true. But it's also not in paid DNSBL operators interest to improve the hit ratio. If the cache hit ratio is improved too much, the DNSBL operators would be unable to detect heavy users and ask (threaten) them for money. :) In the limiting case, if the cache becomes *too* effective, the organization hosting the cache *is* effectively providing the whole data set to its users. Regards, David.