Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 61365 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2010 15:11:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2010 15:11:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 85718 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jun 2010 15:11:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 85697 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jun 2010 15:11:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 85690 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jun 2010 15:11:17 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:11:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of scheidell@secnap.net designates 204.89.241.253 as permitted sender) Received: from [204.89.241.253] (HELO mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net) (204.89.241.253) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:11:10 +0000 Received: from mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net (mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net [204.89.241.253]) by mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4A82B7D2B for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:10:49 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=secnap.net; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:in-reply-to :references:subject:subject:mime-version:user-agent:from:from :date:date:message-id; s=dkim; t=1276269048; x=1278083448; bh=k7 09+3ku+b528cNzpNbR+bNrXguwMcfllRR83KTNKWQ=; b=oKl2B6oJjmre5WLOBa Gvwy5AM14S7I72CRZEJ85YixCaDfpVRupEaJu8+Bs79iDwCO4CzhyfpbZ9rzy7sc WNn55hKDJ/Mx0S0G+zrnNSW1bu7wPHMZDU0mwRP1/x0Cddqgs5e7gdRZ9jb9tt9i 0+lfyfKhGWEOu41n5K9KS193c= X-Amavis-Modified: Mail body modified (using disclaimer) - mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net X-Virus-Scanned: SpammerTrap(r) VPS-1500 2.11 at mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net Received: from secnap3.secnap.com (unknown [204.89.241.130]) by mx1.secnap.com.ionspam.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC262B7CD1 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macintosh.secnap.com ([10.70.3.3]) by secnap3.secnap.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4C1251FD.8060504@secnap.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:10:53 -0400 From: Michael Scheidell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Should Spamhaus default to disabled? References: <20100611103143.L44583@shell.xecu.net> In-Reply-To: <20100611103143.L44583@shell.xecu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2010 15:10:48.0275 (UTC) FILETIME=[45D8C230:01CB0978] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 6/11/10 10:42 AM, Andy Dills wrote: > > We felt the amount of money being asked for was unreasonable, as we felt > we likely wouldn't see an increase in spam if we turned them off. > > should I mention that the (optional) reputation based dcc.pm (which is supported in SA 3.3.x) is really CHEAP? (no, I don't work for them, don't own part of them, don't get commissions from them, and yes, you need to download and recompile a new dccd client/and/or server) If you do less than 100K in queries per day (100K passing through SA), you don't even need to run your own servers. > 100K, the bandwidth would suggest that you would want to run one or more caching DCC servers in your network. I would use spamhaus if their costs were similar to rhyolites for the commercial dcc. (yes, spamhaus, when you told us we were in non-compliance, we tried, several times to contact you to try to license it, and we got ignored. we only know of the costs via third parties who reported it. we admin we have no direct knowledge of the costs because you never responded to our requests for pricing) look at the DCC rules for a hint at the new features. -- Michael Scheidell, CTO Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259 > *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation * Certified SNORT Integrator * 2008-9 Hot Company Award Winner, World Executive Alliance * Five-Star Partner Program 2009, VARBusiness * Best Anti-Spam Product 2008, Network Products Guide * King of Spam Filters, SC Magazine 2008 ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned and certified safe by SpammerTrap(r). For Information please see http://www.secnap.com/products/spammertrap/ ______________________________________________________________________