Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23988 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2010 03:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2010 03:13:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 91710 invoked by uid 500); 8 Apr 2010 03:12:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 91578 invoked by uid 500); 8 Apr 2010 03:12:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 91571 invoked by uid 99); 8 Apr 2010 03:12:57 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:12:57 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of talk2ram@gmail.com designates 209.85.222.190 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.222.190] (HELO mail-pz0-f190.google.com) (209.85.222.190) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Apr 2010 03:12:52 +0000 Received: by pzk28 with SMTP id 28so1699952pzk.11 for ; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:12:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=qXoArYaXy9Cqa4EAwDYgg6l6aK0/NPDoIk3UoCTI5dY=; b=e7T364rTZFse5IV3aUyqMYn8OpNzP9LT4PwkMdKKxrxzv6eVxwkRWc+/AFSpPDQvH2 Wkl3+LnwfolR/J1/P+IZT3htOyDD/tPRJvLo8R/BTfKxAi1KUrzYgwCA6NK3xhaxzXqe zHIpowWfx3suYbraTkQbMClOYe9jpdDFQW/yc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=n1wVu7yuJ8FYoh48+9UL7dyfKlBOdhkQ66Vqh/sy5LG/9DFwQg2VxIxumVNlQv/n7W 9f/00uAdI0A6bFF7oYoBUT5K7jq2tyKvcItoS/rJixLYWyEuTSGUS0vzg0sk7nrqbusb 8Z/DzUwCcrtQJJ57rqrTmQWhkCYujazPBJQRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.148.17 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 20:12:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:42:31 +0530 Received: by 10.142.75.14 with SMTP id x14mr3947004wfa.187.1270696351887; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: newbie for spam optimisation From: ram To: John Hardin Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1fd3fabf1910483b10cf9 --001636e1fd3fabf1910483b10cf9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:27 AM, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, ram wrote: > > sa-learn --spam --showdots --dir /path/to/directory/full/of/spam/msgs >> sa-learn --ham --showdots --dir /path/to/directory/full/of/ham/msgs >> >> i have not able to understand this path ? >> >> i need to created seperate user for this like spam@domain.com, is this >> correct. >> > > No, you don't _need_ a special user in your domain to catch spam for > training. There are ways to do that, look up "spamtrap" for instance. > > But as per the document domain wide, user need to create and as the users to forward the spam mail to that user and learn. correct me if my understand wrong > > so all my users are using Outlook express, when they see some message is >> spam >> >> how can i ask them to report back so that create rules based on that >> > > How are your users retrieving their mail from the server? POP or IMAP? > > If they are using POP then it becomes difficult, as the mail client will > unavoidably mangle the spam messages when your users try to send them to you > to be learned. I'll let others who actually use POP comment on that. > > 90% of my users are Outlook express.. people on the roam use Imap, but its only 20%, but iam more concern people using OE. i appriciate if some one using this kind of setup. > If you are using IMAP it becomes really easy. Just set up a > SpamAssassin-SPAM mail folder for each user, tell them to _move_ spams from > their inbox to that folder, and train from it nightly. Poke around under > http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/antispam/ for some scripting that you can > use as a starting point. > > thanks for the link, let me see what best i can do for the users who using IMAP Ram --001636e1fd3fabf1910483b10cf9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 12:27 AM, John Hardin <jhardin@impsec.org= > wrote:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, ram wrote:

sa-learn --spam --showdots --dir= /path/to/directory/full/of/spam/msgs
sa-learn --ham --showdots --dir /p= ath/to/directory/full/of/ham/msgs

i have not able to understand this path ?

i need to created sepe= rate user for this like spam@domain.com, is this
correct.

No, yo= u don't _need_ a special user in your domain to catch spam for training= . There are ways to do that, look up "spamtrap" for instance.=20

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But as per the document domain wide, user need to create
and as the users to forward the spam mail to that user and learn.
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correct me if my understand wrong
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so all my users are using Outloo= k express, when they see some message is spam

how can i ask them to = report back so that create rules based on that

How are your users retrieving their mail from the se= rver? POP or IMAP?

If they are using POP then it becomes difficult, = as the mail client will unavoidably mangle the spam messages when your user= s try to send them to you to be learned. I'll let others who actually u= se POP comment on that.

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90% of my users are Outlook express.. people on the roam use Imap, but= its only 20%, but iam more concern people using OE.
i appriciate if some one using this kind of setup.
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If you are using IMAP it becomes= really easy. Just set up a SpamAssassin-SPAM mail folder for each user, te= ll them to _move_ spams from their inbox to that folder, and train from it = nightly. Poke around under http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/antispam/ for som= e scripting that you can use as a starting point.

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thanks for the link, let me see what best i can do for the users who u= sing IMAP
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Ram

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