Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 21733 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2009 00:10:34 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Oct 2009 00:10:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 20535 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2009 00:10:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 20483 invoked by uid 500); 20 Oct 2009 00:10:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 20475 invoked by uid 99); 20 Oct 2009 00:10:30 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:10:30 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [213.157.0.165] (HELO smtp.medianet-world.de) (213.157.0.165) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:10:21 +0000 Received: (qmail 16461 invoked by uid 89); 20 Oct 2009 00:10:01 -0000 Received: from ip-213157027051.dialin.heagmedianet.de (HELO ?10.1.0.2?) (mn1000769-000@bluehash.de@213.157.27.51) by smtp.medianet-world.de with ESMTPA; 20 Oct 2009 00:10:01 -0000 Subject: Re: Pulling my hair out From: Karsten =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Br=E4ckelmann?= To: users@spamassassin.apache.org In-Reply-To: <4ADCFB58.9020202@comcast.net> References: <25967420.post@talk.nabble.com> <4ADCFB58.9020202@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:10:00 +0200 Message-Id: <1255997400.4938.58.camel@monkey> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 16:50 -0700, Adriene Harrison wrote: > SA is only for mail servers?! I wish that had been made clear on the > SA website. Even now looking at the homepage and FAQ page I see > nothing to that effect. But thank you all who responded for clearing As I said, server-side filtering is the intended use -- but, yes, it does work client-side, too. Granted, helps a great lot, if your mail client provides integration glue. And of course, if you're running e.g. Linux, where installing SA usually is a breeze. But I digress... > this up. I was beginning to think I must have taken a stupid pill > when I woke up this morning. I inferred from Thunderbirds settings > "trust junk mail headers set by SA" to mean I needed SA. Apparently This means what the words say -- *trust* the headers, usually injected somewhere server-side, to have the client act upon it, if there are no dedicated spam folders on the server, for example. Trust is key here, because anyone in the chain could have added these headers, and it makes sense only, if you know you *are* running SA on your server, nearby. That setting won't work as you hoped for anyway. It doesn't call SA. > not. Not very clear on their part. Thanks to everyone who replied so > quickly. Another related note: While I do know (from various experiences), that running SA server-side is much superior to running any light-weight client spam filter -- SA uses too much resources (most of all pure time), to be really useful client-side with any substantial amount of spam or ham messages to scan. In such a case, if server-side is not an option, I'd recommend to try some client filters first. Like the Thunderbird built-in one... -- char *t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0.@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4"; main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i>=1)||!t[s+h]){ putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}