Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 56171 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2008 17:25:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Jun 2008 17:25:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 66729 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jun 2008 17:24:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-users-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 66707 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jun 2008 17:24:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 66692 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jun 2008 17:24:56 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:24:56 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jhardin@impsec.org designates 207.210.83.140 as permitted sender) Received: from [207.210.83.140] (HELO ga.impsec.org) (207.210.83.140) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:24:04 +0000 Received: from mercury.impsec.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ga.impsec.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m5CHMIIO007821 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:22:20 -0700 Received: from mercury.impsec.org (tunnel.ga.impsec.org [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.impsec.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m5CHMIqN010982; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:22:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (jhardin@localhost) by mercury.impsec.org (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) with ESMTP id m5CHMH35010979; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:22:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: mercury.impsec.org: jhardin owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:22:17 -0700 (PDT) From: John Hardin To: SM cc: Linda Walsh , SA-users Subject: Re: Discussion side point: levels of Trust In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20080611190223.02fc7818@resistor.net> Message-ID: References: <17763488.post@talk.nabble.com> <484EF43B.1060809@leisi.net> <484F79C8.8030106@leisi.net> <485071FE.5010001@tlinx.org> <6.2.5.6.2.20080611190223.02fc7818@resistor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, SM wrote: > At 17:46 11-06-2008, Linda Walsh wrote: >> How does one decided on 'trust'? I.e. I think it would be >> useful to assign a probability to "Trust" at the least. I mean do I put >> my ISP in my trusted server list? -- suppose they start partnering with > > It could be a reputation system where you assign a probability. Probability of what, exactly? Bear in mind, "trusted" means "does not forge Received: headers", not "does not send or relay spam". -- John Hardin KA7OHZ http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhardin@impsec.org FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 -- 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- People seem to have this obsession with objects and tools as being dangerous in and of themselves, as though a weapon will act of its own accord to cause harm. A weapon is just a force multiplier. It's *humans* that are (or are not) dangerous. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 days until SWMBO's Birthday