Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 98807 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2011 20:14:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Mar 2011 20:14:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14061 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2011 20:14:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-spamassassin-dev-archive@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 13985 invoked by uid 500); 1 Mar 2011 20:14:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 13978 invoked by uid 99); 1 Mar 2011 20:14:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:14:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of wtogami@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.178 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.83.178] (HELO mail-pv0-f178.google.com) (74.125.83.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:13:59 +0000 Received: by pvg7 with SMTP id 7so1281946pvg.37 for ; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:13:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bAiQkQzoUMIWUsRk8xe1grbnfNwi+lspxYq1t8rdG5E=; b=T48pjtvVdfHIEAf+IHpGJCqQVe4BRA3+F/U3pyGOslcp+6kMqaVADqswFiiXOjnM0S mXNG25pLkNyvgF0h0U2PWS24qdMQF0y+qrCT2NLPRvXzZXcw+p4hueAPV85XTCCE7PgU vMtmggnEQCFDSVUYLX9n//ekPW4k3Mb8IBLC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tyOAWDiu+pI9/DqRkaokK6IDk3lsRKSnAGq4WAPFIQBtPT/Xfo1jvwschrx0MYJyLw Lfe/WNPdji3zziH/tkODMN2oe8GUZtupu/CaGKy817UwiFXqypahE7qsn1AEBOJYtMJK HmoYAt53hDc5YGOZu4w4hcgOxG6plSEMBFX6Y= Received: by 10.142.246.1 with SMTP id t1mr5668665wfh.198.1299010416766; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (cpe-76-93-222-127.hawaii.res.rr.com [76.93.222.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w19sm7938687wfd.20.2011.03.01.12.13.34 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Mar 2011 12:13:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D6D5369.8040202@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 10:13:29 -1000 From: "Warren Togami Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: [Bug 6534] Evaluate UCEPROTECT References: <201103011938.p21Jc7aE006208@thor.apache.org> <4D6D506B.2020201@i6ix.com> In-Reply-To: <4D6D506B.2020201@i6ix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 3/1/2011 10:00 AM, Jason Bertoch wrote: > On 2011/03/01 2:38 PM, bugzilla-daemon@issues.apache.org wrote: >> https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6534 >> > > Replying to list as I doubt this needs to be attached to the bug... > >> http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20110226-r1074804-n/T_RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT_L1/detail >> >> It has very high overlaps with MSPIKE_BL at 80%, PSBL at 73% and >> HOSTKARMA_BL >> at 89%. > > Should overlaps with BL's not included in published rules really count > against it? It could certainly explain why I'm seeing better success > over here. Plus, what about tests for L2 and L3? Are those not included > somewhere? This is a good point, however my point here is despite its strong similarity to these other DNSBL's that have high safety ratings, it seems UCEPROTECT isn't achieving a similar good safety rating. When I looked into this a few weeks ago it seemed to be some constantcontant, but also common foreign ham. I will be looking more in depth later this month. Warren