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From "Alan D. Cabrera" <l...@toolazydogs.com>
Subject Re: Cracking off a release
Date Thu, 13 May 2010 19:04:00 GMT
Quick comment, there's no requirement to use Maven's release plugin.


Regards,
Alan

On May 13, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:

> I think it's mostly for perception.  We've waited a _long_ time to
> release 1.0 and I think a 1.0.0-RC1 release would feel like "oh here
> we go - 1.0 is _still_ not ready?".  We've worked a lot on stability
> such that I don't foresee many bugs cropping up, so it shouldn't be a
> big deal to go from 1.0.0 to 1.0.X quickly if necessary.
>
> Also, I don't know that Maven's release plugin works well with
> suffixes after the point version - it auto-increments point numbers or
> minor revision numbers automatically based on the previous number.  I
> think the RC stuff would kind of screw that up, no?
>
> That's just my opinion on the matter.  I'm not averse to using an RC
> designation, but my biggest concern there is how long between an RC
> and GA would we have to wait.  Time has been hurting us lately...
>
> Les
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Tauren Mills <tauren@tauren.com>  
> wrote:
>> I'm curious why you wouldn't do release candidates, such as 1.0.0- 
>> RC1,
>> 1.0.0-RC2 and have 1.0.0 GA be the final accepted release. This  
>> isn't a
>> complaint, do it however you wish, I'm just interested to know the
>> reasoning.
>>
>> Tauren
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Kalle Korhonen <kalle.o.korhonen@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Craig L Russell
>>> <craig.russell@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>> Great to hear that you're ready to "crack off" a release. You  
>>>> need to
>>>> decide:
>>>> Is this a final release or some early access or beta thing?
>>>> What tools will you use to create the release artifacts?
>>>> Will you release binaries or just sources (most Java projects  
>>>> release
>>> both
>>>> binary and source).
>>>> Who is going to be the release manager?
>>>
>>> I'll take this. Assuming Les is fine it, I'll be the release  
>>> manager.
>>> This is a 1.0.0 GA release. We are going to release with Maven using
>>> the staged release process so we'll have some time to test the final
>>> artifact before its being released publicly and while it's being  
>>> vote
>>> upon. If we find blockers, we'll abandon the release and do a new
>>> point release - 1.0.1 etc. until the staged release is accepted.  
>>> While
>>> I haven't cut any Apache releases before, I'm fairly familiar with
>>> Tapestry's releases which use the same process and I've done staged
>>> releases with Maven/Nexus before.
>>>
>>> Kalle
>>>
>>>
>>>> After you know what to release and who is going to create the  
>>>> release
>>>> artifacts, you can proceed to step 2: creating the release  
>>>> artifacts.
>>> There
>>>> are many examples of releases from incubation that you should  
>>>> probably
>>> study
>>>> and then volunteer to cut the release(s).
>>>>
>>>> The first release of a podling is normally reviewed by a small  
>>>> number of
>>>> really dedicated volunteers who find many trivial-sounding  
>>>> problems that
>>> in
>>>> fact are very important. But whoever volunteers to be the release  
>>>> manager
>>>> should expect between two and five attempts before passing muster  
>>>> for an
>>>> official Apache incubating release.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We're working on it! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously though - I think we can be code complete today.  After  
>>>>> that
>>>>> is finished, I was going to ping the list to ask the Mentors how  
>>>>> we go
>>>>> about starting the voting process.  Since we might be able to  
>>>>> start
>>>>> this tomorrow, could you fill us in a bit on how this works?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com

>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've been at this for quite some time.  I've been approached  
>>>>>> by people
>>>>>> wondering when this is going to happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that a release would be a good idea.  Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>


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