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Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 10:41:40 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Toward ServiceMix 4.5.0 ?
From: Gert Vanthienen <gert.vanthienen@gmail.com>
To: dev@servicemix.apache.org
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L.S.,

That sounds like a good plan too. Now that we got ourselves on a decent
release schedule again (with 4.4.0, 4.4.1 and an upcoming 4.4.2 in less
than half a year) we just have to make sure we don't get ourselves stuck
waiting eternally for the next best thing again.  But if we can incorporate
the new version of ActiveMQ without delaying 4.5.0 for a long time, we
should definitely do this.

Regards,

Gert Vanthienen
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FuseSource
Web: http://fusesource.com
Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/


On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ibsen@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> Hi
>
> Another thought about SMX 4.5 could be to try to make that the
> officially Java 7 supported version.
> If we taget it to include
> - CXF 2.2.7+ (already Java 7)
> - Camel 2.10 (will support Java 7)
> - CXF 2.6.x (already Java 7)
> - AMQ 5.6.x (the AMQ team want to cut a Java 7 compatible release when
> Camel 2.10 is out)
>
> That would IMHO bring value to the SMX community, that SMX 4.5 will be
> a stable platform you can bet on,
> for the future. It its Java 7 compatible and uses at the time the
> latest of the other Apache products.
> And there will be patch releases issued of SMX 4.5.x that includes
> patch upgrades of these Apache products.
>
> That would be a release you could promote, blog about, and get the
> word out. That SMX is indeed kicking and alive.
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9 <jb@nanthrax.net=
>
> wrote:
> > We are inline.
> >
> > I'm updating the version set to reflect that.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> >
> > On 05/10/2012 10:08 AM, Gert Vanthienen wrote:
> >>
> >> Claus,
> >>
> >> Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well - there's no real value in an
> >> extra ServiceMix release that ships with the backlevel Camel/CXF
> versions
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Gert Vanthienen
> >> ------------------------
> >> FuseSource
> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Claus Ibsen<claus.ibsen@gmail.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Gert Vanthienen
> >>> <gert.vanthienen@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Jean-Baptiste,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We already have a 4.4.1 release out since the end of February - up t=
o
> >>>
> >>> now,
> >>>>
> >>>> the 4.4.x release have been using Camel 2.8.x and CXF 2.4.x.
> >>>>
> >>>> How about we do this instead?
> >>>> - a 4.4.2 maintenance release to pick up Camel 2.8.5 and CXF 2.4.7
> >>>> - a 4.5.0 release that includes the latest Camel 2.9.x and CXF 2.5.x=
,
> >>>> together with ActiveMQ 5.5.1
> >>>> - a 4.6.0 release that includes Camel 2.10.x, CXF 2.6.x and ActiveMQ
> >>>
> >>> 5.6.0
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The first one should be very easy to do, since we already have a
> >>>> maintenance branch in the features project so this should only be
> about
> >>>> updating the dependency versions in the parent/pom.xml and making su=
re
> >>>> everything works fine.  In parallel, we can also do the 4.5.0 releas=
e
> >>>> set
> >>>> from trunk (this requires us to release everything again, so that's =
a
> >>>> bit
> >>>> more work).  Not sure we want to do a 4.5.0 and 4.6.0, we might also
> >>>> want
> >>>> to consider going straight for Camel 2.10.x and CXF 2.6.x in 4.5.0 a=
s
> >>>
> >>> well
> >>>>
> >>>> - wdyt?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I dont think its good to cut so many new releases, that just burdens
> >>> the SMX team to maintain that.
> >>> And also confuses the community with that many releases.
> >>>
> >>> I would go for a patch release of the existing 4.4.x with the patch
> >>> version of the AMQ,CXF and Camel that matches.
> >>> And then for SMX 4.5 jump straight to AMQ 5.6, CXF 2.6, and Camel 2.1=
0.
> >>>
> >>> Do not do a SMX release with Camel 2.9, AMQ 5.5.1 etc. That is just
> >>> waste of time.
> >>>
> >>> Just my thoughts.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Gert Vanthienen
> >>>> ------------------------
> >>>> FuseSource
> >>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>>> Blog: http://gertvanthienen.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9<jb@nanthrax.n=
et
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> just to summarise the proposal:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1/ release ServiceMix 4.4.1: this is a maintenance release to upgra=
de
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> new Camel 2.9.2, Karaf 2.2.7 and provide some bug fixes. In term of
> >>>>> dependencies version, it means: Karaf 2.2.7, Camel 2.9.2, CXF 2.5.2=
,
> >>>>> ActiveMQ 5.5.1
> >>>>> 2/ prepare ServiceMix 4.5.0: this release will include Karaf 2.2.x
> >>>>> (probably Karaf 2.2.7), Camel 2.10, CXF 2.6.x, ActiveMQ 5.6
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it ok for you all ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 05/07/2012 04:49 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Claus,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good idea, I will take a look on the Camel issue in the mean time.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 05/07/2012 04:38 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW I have started a parallel discussion on Camel @dev about the
> >>>>>>> Camel
> >>>>>>> 2.10 release.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So the Camel team will work towards getting that release out so S=
MX
> >>>>>>> 4.5 can jump on the train and be up to date with all the latest
> >>>>>>> release of CXF, AMQ and Camel.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW: Camel 2.10 is already upgraded to Karaf 2.2.7 and CXF 2.6.0.
> And
> >>>>>>> we will jump on AMQ 5.6.0 when the JARs hit Maven central.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As many of you are also on the Camel team, then take a look in th=
e
> >>>>>>> Camel JIRA and help get those pending tickets resolved. And with
> the
> >>>>>>> documentation as well. We should avoid doing releases which lacks
> >>>>>>> documentation. That is a slipping slope I would like to avoid.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9<
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Now that Camel 2.9.2, CXF 2.5.3 and Karaf 2.2.7 are out, I propo=
se
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> make a
> >>>>>>>> ServiceMix 4.5.0 release which upgrade to these versions.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> WDYT ?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If all are OK, I will update the dependencies, make a test serie=
s
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> cut
> >>>>>>>> off ServiceMix 4.5.0.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9
> >>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9
> >>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Claus Ibsen
> >>> -----------------
> >>> CamelOne 2012 Conference, May 15-16, 2012: http://camelone.com
> >>> FuseSource
> >>> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> >>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >>> Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
> >>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> >>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9
> > jbonofre@apache.org
> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> CamelOne 2012 Conference, May 15-16, 2012: http://camelone.com
> FuseSource
> Email: cibsen@fusesource.com
> Web: http://fusesource.com
> Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews
> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/
> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
>

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