From dev-return-2408-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@sdap.apache.org Thu Sep 5 13:25:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 58E34180656 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 15:25:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 19773 invoked by uid 500); 5 Sep 2019 21:37:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@sdap.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@sdap.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@sdap.apache.org Received: (qmail 19760 invoked by uid 99); 5 Sep 2019 21:37:53 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:37:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 0FBA1C034D for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:25:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.801 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-he-de.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RP-dSE91GEG3 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::836; helo=mail-qt1-x836.google.com; envelope-from=trevor.d.grant@gmail.com; receiver= Received: from mail-qt1-x836.google.com (mail-qt1-x836.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::836]) by mx1-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 854147DD5B for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt1-x836.google.com with SMTP id b2so2762169qtq.5 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 06:25:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nsD00DSMbRxY0z0DMX+BbCdP83ilBrDWcOE0sEFMgkA=; b=qaVlTmg5jVHMLIoso9sgINAzgTz0wxv1er4m2pM8NIc3z4GJgvGUx2O3hCzwhEO7Jo g+UapcZcR8SSz0AjegkuA5LULLsWSRcAQhwUqAJ64a7hgcwFAsf2ZsJ/nfG7XAe83L0X JJ6QpVk3DNvNxnUwLn4HaAfPWa9rHVg92lrNEbqxRagd7PMjfLISWLRpqbsVJsCP+iZd G3qk0ALAjoT6qHxSJbRVKy6T2cKOddh6EJPQMqVjstHv3EIgtqBBR1jqiSTYDBo5OdkI uTA28/h2b/Jk1B5JLfnSOuDEIL6PnAjmqLWm++b+hwPMhcNppZ2+a6e6pRxFcOT/07Ow uN7Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=nsD00DSMbRxY0z0DMX+BbCdP83ilBrDWcOE0sEFMgkA=; b=Yx8DINjYOosc1RvZ6Yy3Fm6FUqulT2uSaM5bGHSqtMaiNVE/b4Y6+wxQvRm2LOi8d/ 4v48rceKyaPpxkkufOly+kHuI3eYdFkb9gD+PQ3/CPZZwiDNSCkcNofbe1yG95yyig37 o7B75M2BnW7Vbjltqvq1B9mEp1H6RJ3vebKGY+0G6hWMSX4GHPlUj9jRwEqnuo2MNB4k H+OGfmAocys/bxna3oD6yzjgokJEhjHx+swLlrZWt/bw+hzSHqzEAe2VXIZkSEvpdY6k 6rffpKQspg17ZWNbKNI/CWX+MyCcpYxRffiY4RCj7KDu1oit0X1L967fOhOWHBCfFZgh vOsw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVmLGiChLhluAn8kG5sgW8mWICSTOhu1RBPD0Z1x6U31YmXCaf9 LILQzEiEQ442mU5u/eR+o12ZOcl6Y9n2veTeVQCWku7/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzRWCVnbJf2/8kLUj3UwyStYxLDKaTbxjxIUE4/IL/XrEUNf3NzJ41Vnh0YYdFAYbB7xYSByQcyU8s9ehSMk30= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:9665:: with SMTP id 34mr1624225qvy.223.1567689936810; Thu, 05 Sep 2019 06:25:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <09DCC2AB-7634-4E89-B4C0-29689864BCFD@pragmaticminds.de> In-Reply-To: <09DCC2AB-7634-4E89-B4C0-29689864BCFD@pragmaticminds.de> From: Trevor Grant Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 08:25:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [REPORT] Please review To: dev@sdap.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cd37ce0591ce4184" --000000000000cd37ce0591ce4184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite. tg On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer wrote: > Hi all, > > I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors and > help for the initial release. > Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in > the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well. > > I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat there! > > Julian > > =EF=BB=BFAm 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" : > > Cool. > > Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating > the IoT > room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that. > > Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up > with > him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other > non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator > projects > are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can > sometimes be different. > > Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack > channel, but > haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear > something on there I'll respond. > > tg > > > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska > wrote: > > > Thanks Trevor. > > > > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is > today, I > > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit > the wiki > > directly? > > > > wrt your questions: > > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and > talking about > > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials. > > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the cod= e > is > > running in a few different places. The main problem with the releas= e > at > > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal > requirements > > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not > releasing all > > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes > > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation > challenging. > > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we wer= e > told > > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's stil= l > > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are > not JAR > > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that issue= : > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f494957= 2311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it > seems > > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're > actually > > supposed to do. > > > > - Frank > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant < > trevor.d.grant@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > This looks good- thanks Frank. > > > > > > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to > find > > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm > seeing > > one > > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep > growing > > the > > > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which > will > > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw > from. Sort > > > of a chicken and egg problem. > > > > > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any > talks > > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a > > lightning > > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously > mentioned > > > feedback loop. > > > > > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is > the > > thing > > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x > release > > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a > 0.x > > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two > cents). > > > > > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below: > > > > > > > > > > > > SDAP > > > > > > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science > problems. > > > > > > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22. > > > > > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards > graduation: > > > > > > > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release > > > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation > > > > 3. Improve committer participation > > > > > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need > to be > > > > aware of? > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > How has the community developed since the last report? > > > > > > > > We are continuing to attract new committers. > > > > > > > > How has the project developed since the last report? > > > > > > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a > > > repeatable > > > > build pipeline has been started. > > > > > > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed Oceanograph= ic > > Matchup > > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE) > > components > > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized > quality > > > > flag. > > > > > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity? > > > > > > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and > interest > > is > > > > high. However, active participation from project members is low= . > A push > > > is > > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting t= he > > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can > claim a > > 1.0 > > > > version of SDAP. > > > > > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary. > > > > > > > > [X] Initial setup > > > > [X] Working towards first release > > > > [X] Community building > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation > > > > > > > > Date of last release: > > > > > > > > XXXX-XX-XX > > > > > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected? > > > > > > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08 > > > > > > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things > falling > > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open > issues > > > > that need to be addressed. > > > > > > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive. > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: > > > > > > > > [ ](sdap) J=C3=B6rn Kottmann > > > > Comments: > > > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant > > > > Comments: > > > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney > > > > Comments: > > > > > > > > > > > > --000000000000cd37ce0591ce4184--