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From Julian Feinauer <j.feina...@pragmaticminds.de>
Subject Re: [REPORT] Please review
Date Mon, 09 Sep 2019 05:54:20 GMT
Damn... I'm unsure if I can attend.. try my best.

See you!
Julian

Am 08.09.19, 22:47 schrieb "Frank Greguska" <fgreg@apache.org>:

    Last minute change of plans, I'll be giving the talk on SDAP tomorrow.
    Looking forward to meeting you all.
    
    - Frank
    
    On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:25 AM Trevor Grant <trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    
    > Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting
    > there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite.
    >
    > tg
    >
    >
    > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer <
    > j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors and
    > > help for the initial release.
    > > Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in
    > > the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
    > >
    > > I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat there!
    > >
    > > Julian
    > >
    > > Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>:
    > >
    > >     Cool.
    > >
    > >     Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating
    > > the IoT
    > >     room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
    > >
    > >     Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up
    > > with
    > >     him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
    > >     non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator
    > > projects
    > >     are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
    > >     sometimes be different.
    > >
    > >     Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack
    > > channel, but
    > >     haven't had a response yet.  Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
    > >     something on there I'll respond.
    > >
    > >     tg
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >     On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fgreg@apache.org>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >     > Thanks Trevor.
    > >     >
    > >     > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is
    > > today, I
    > >     > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit
    > > the wiki
    > >     > directly?
    > >     >
    > >     > wrt your questions:
    > >     > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and
    > > talking about
    > >     > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
    > >     > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the
    > code
    > > is
    > >     > running in a few different places. The main problem with the
    > release
    > > at
    > >     > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal
    > > requirements
    > >     > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not
    > > releasing all
    > >     > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
    > >     > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation
    > > challenging.
    > >     > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we
    > were
    > > told
    > >     > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's
    > still
    > >     > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are
    > > not JAR
    > >     > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that
    > issue:
    > >     >
    > >     >
    > >
    > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
    > >     > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it
    > > seems
    > >     > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're
    > > actually
    > >     > supposed to do.
    > >     >
    > >     > - Frank
    > >     >
    > >     > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <
    > > trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
    > >     > wrote:
    > >     >
    > >     > > This looks good- thanks Frank.
    > >     > >
    > >     > > Improving/creating docs is always hard.  It might be advisable
to
    > > find
    > >     > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm
    > > seeing
    > >     > one
    > >     > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep
    > > growing
    > >     > the
    > >     > > community).  Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which
    > > will
    > >     > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw
    > > from.  Sort
    > >     > > of a chicken and egg problem.
    > >     > >
    > >     > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any
    > > talks
    > >     > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe
a
    > >     > lightning
    > >     > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously
    > > mentioned
    > >     > > feedback loop.
    > >     > >
    > >     > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that
is
    > > the
    > >     > thing
    > >     > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x
    > > release
    > >     > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have
a
    > > 0.x
    > >     > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two
    > > cents).
    > >     > >
    > >     > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
    > >     > >
    > >     > >
    > >     > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fgreg@apache.org
    > >
    > > wrote:
    > >     > >
    > >     > > > Hello,
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > SDAP
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science
    > > problems.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
    > > graduation:
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > >  1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
    > >     > > >  2. Improve/create user guide documentation
    > >     > > >  3. Improve committer participation
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
    > > to be
    > >     > > > aware of?
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > No.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards
a
    > >     > > repeatable
    > >     > > > build pipeline has been started.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed
    > Oceanographic
    > >     > Matchup
    > >     > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
    > >     > components
    > >     > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized
    > > quality
    > >     > > > flag.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used
and
    > > interest
    > >     > is
    > >     > > > high. However, active participation from project members
is
    > low.
    > > A push
    > >     > > is
    > >     > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting
    > the
    > >     > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we
can
    > > claim a
    > >     > 1.0
    > >     > > > version of SDAP.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > >   [X] Initial setup
    > >     > > >   [X] Working towards first release
    > >     > > >   [X] Community building
    > >     > > >   [ ] Nearing graduation
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Date of last release:
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > >   XXXX-XX-XX
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things
    > > falling
    > >     > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open
    > > issues
    > >     > > > that need to be addressed.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > > Signed-off-by:
    > >     > > >
    > >     > > >   [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
    > >     > > >      Comments:
    > >     > > >   [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
    > >     > > >      Comments:
    > >     > > >   [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
    > >     > > >      Comments:
    > >     > > >
    > >     > >
    > >     >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    

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