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From Trevor Grant <trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [REPORT] Please review
Date Thu, 05 Sep 2019 17:35:30 GMT
Sorry- Justin got back to me last night, I saw this morning- he said yes
that's the right thing to do and that he saw the entry.



On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:48 AM Frank Greguska <fgreg@apache.org> wrote:

> FYI - I've edited the Wiki directly to add our report to it.
>
> - Frank
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:25 AM Trevor Grant <trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting
> > there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite.
> >
> > tg
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer <
> > j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors
> and
> > > help for the initial release.
> > > Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in
> > > the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
> > >
> > > I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat
> there!
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >     Cool.
> > >
> > >     Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating
> > > the IoT
> > >     room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
> > >
> > >     Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch
> up
> > > with
> > >     him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
> > >     non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator
> > > projects
> > >     are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
> > >     sometimes be different.
> > >
> > >     Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack
> > > channel, but
> > >     haven't had a response yet.  Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
> > >     something on there I'll respond.
> > >
> > >     tg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fgreg@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >     > Thanks Trevor.
> > >     >
> > >     > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission
> is
> > > today, I
> > >     > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit
> > > the wiki
> > >     > directly?
> > >     >
> > >     > wrt your questions:
> > >     > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and
> > > talking about
> > >     > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> > >     > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the
> > code
> > > is
> > >     > running in a few different places. The main problem with the
> > release
> > > at
> > >     > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal
> > > requirements
> > >     > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not
> > > releasing all
> > >     > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> > >     > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation
> > > challenging.
> > >     > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we
> > were
> > > told
> > >     > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's
> > still
> > >     > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are
> > > not JAR
> > >     > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that
> > issue:
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > >     > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now
> it
> > > seems
> > >     > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're
> > > actually
> > >     > supposed to do.
> > >     >
> > >     > - Frank
> > >     >
> > >     > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <
> > > trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> > >     > wrote:
> > >     >
> > >     > > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Improving/creating docs is always hard.  It might be advisable
> to
> > > find
> > >     > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights
> (I'm
> > > seeing
> > >     > one
> > >     > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep
> > > growing
> > >     > the
> > >     > > community).  Improved docs will lead to more user adoption,
> which
> > > will
> > >     > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw
> > > from.  Sort
> > >     > > of a chicken and egg problem.
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there
> any
> > > talks
> > >     > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe
> a
> > >     > lightning
> > >     > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously
> > > mentioned
> > >     > > feedback loop.
> > >     > >
> > >     > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that
> is
> > > the
> > >     > thing
> > >     > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x
> > > release
> > >     > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should
> have a
> > > 0.x
> > >     > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two
> > > cents).
> > >     > >
> > >     > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my
> comments.
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <
> fgreg@apache.org
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >     > >
> > >     > > > Hello,
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > SDAP
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science
> > > problems.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > > graduation:
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > >  1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > >     > > >  2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > >     > > >  3. Improve committer participation
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board
> wish/need
> > > to be
> > >     > > > aware of?
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > No.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work
> towards a
> > >     > > repeatable
> > >     > > > build pipeline has been started.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed
> > Oceanographic
> > >     > Matchup
> > >     > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> > >     > components
> > >     > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a
> standardized
> > > quality
> > >     > > > flag.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used
and
> > > interest
> > >     > is
> > >     > > > high. However, active participation from project members
is
> > low.
> > > A push
> > >     > > is
> > >     > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting
> > the
> > >     > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we
can
> > > claim a
> > >     > 1.0
> > >     > > > version of SDAP.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > >   [X] Initial setup
> > >     > > >   [X] Working towards first release
> > >     > > >   [X] Community building
> > >     > > >   [ ] Nearing graduation
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Date of last release:
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > >   XXXX-XX-XX
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things
> > > falling
> > >     > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any
open
> > > issues
> > >     > > > that need to be addressed.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > > Signed-off-by:
> > >     > > >
> > >     > > >   [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > >     > > >      Comments:
> > >     > > >   [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > >     > > >      Comments:
> > >     > > >   [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > >     > > >      Comments:
> > >     > > >
> > >     > >
> > >     >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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