Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-security-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23478 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2006 10:02:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2006 10:02:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 50322 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jun 2006 10:02:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-xml-security-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 50031 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jun 2006 10:02:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact security-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Reply-To: security-dev@xml.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list security-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 49935 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jun 2006 10:02:19 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:02:19 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.6 required=10.0 tests=NO_DNS_FOR_FROM X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [202.164.195.42] (HELO cerberus.wingsofhermes.org) (202.164.195.42) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:02:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 14194 invoked by uid 1008); 22 Jun 2006 10:01:54 -0000 Received: from 192.168.3.10 by cerberus.wingsofhermes.org (envelope-from , uid 1002) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88/1246. spamassassin: 3.0.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.3.10):. Processed in 1.869469 secs); 22 Jun 2006 10:01:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (192.168.3.10) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2006 10:01:49 -0000 Message-ID: <449A6A84.6070003@wingsofhermes.org> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:01:40 +1000 From: Berin Lautenbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: board@apache.org CC: pmc@xml.apache.org, security-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: XML-Security TLP -> Santuario References: <44992D7A.3000901@wingsofhermes.org> <8DDFAA2D-D1E4-4803-B8C8-7D992DA85E81@gbiv.com> In-Reply-To: <8DDFAA2D-D1E4-4803-B8C8-7D992DA85E81@gbiv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0625-5, 21/06/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Roy T. Fielding wrote: > It sounds like a decent idea for a federation, but a terrible idea > for a project. Projects need to be responsible for a product or they > just end up in the weeds. A federation of projects can simply maintain > a general mailing list and website. It would be responsible for code - the current xml-security stuff that sits within the XML project/federation. And it would look to start new things as well - with an absolute intent to move them to TLP when necessary (i.e. when it became clear the Santuario PMC did not have direct oversite). I know we are trying not to create umbrella projects - I'm trying to walk a middle ground to see if we can make something like this work with a community that fosters this area. It's a bit of a community experiment as well as a technical one. Cheers, Berin