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From "Dittmann, Werner" <werner.dittm...@siemens.com>
Subject AW: VOTE: TLP Resolution
Date Wed, 31 May 2006 12:11:27 GMT
Here are my votes:

1) +1
2) Santuario
3) +1 

Regards,
Werner



> -----Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Berin Lautenbach [mailto:berin@wingsofhermes.org] 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 12:22
> An: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> Betreff: VOTE: TLP Resolution
> 
> All,
> 
> I'm going to make this happen by hook or by crook.
> 
> I've floated the idea on board@ and got no objections, so lets make it
> formal.
> 
> All committers need to cast a vote on the following.
> 
> 1) Support for going to TLP as a broad Security project (+1 or -1)
> 2) The name of the project.  See list of proposed names below.
> 3) The chair.  At the moment the only volunteer is myself, so you can
> vote +1/-1 to that or you can propose other names :>.
> 
> I've pasted the board proposal at the end of this email.
> 
> I've included a list of current committers on JuiCE (is this OK?) and
> XML-Security in the PMC list.  To make sure the list is 
> valid, I will be
> using this vote to confirm people are interested in being in the PMC.
> 
> IF YOU DO NOT VOTE I WILL ASSUME THAT YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED 
> ON BEING ON
> THE PMC!  (Sorry for shouting :>.)
> 
> Proposed Names (feel free to add if you have strong feelings) :
> 
> - Raksha
> - Security Software
> - Santuario
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Berin
> 
> 
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to security technologies,
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX>
> PMC", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache <XXX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creation and maintenance of open-source software
> related to XML security technologies based on software
> licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache <XX INSERT
> NAME XX>" be and hereby is created, the person holding such
> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as
> the chair of the Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC, and to have primary
> responsibility for management of the projects within the
> scope of responsibility of the Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> 
> PMC; and be it
> further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC:
> 
> Erwin van der Koogh <vdkoogh@apache.org>
> Axl Mattheus <amattheu@apache.org>
> Berin Lautenbach <blautenb@apache.org>
> Vishal Mahajan <vishal@apache.org>
> Davanum Srinivas <dims@apache.org>
> Raul Benito <raul@apache.org>
> Milan Tomic <milan@apache.org>
> Sean Mullan <mullan@apache.org>
> Karel Wouters <kwouters@apache.org>
> Noah Levitt <nlevitt@apache.org>
> Walter Hoehn <wassa@apache.org>
> Werner Dittman <werner@apache.org>
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that <XX INSERT CHAIR XX>
> <??@apache.org> appointed to the office of Vice President,
> Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX>, to serve in accordance with and subject
> to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and
> hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and
> hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
> Apache XML PMC XML Security subproject; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the XML XML
> Security sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache XML PMC
> are hereafter discharged.
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: TLP Resolution
> Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 21:05:09 +1000
> From: Berin Lautenbach <berin@wingsofhermes.org>
> Reply-To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0471B@PKCVT01.pkc.com>
> <19e0530f0604230653u6a57c1e3qd623f5ff7bb39877@mail.gmail.com>
> 
> All,
> 
> So we have two names that people seem to like
> 
> Raksha
> Santuary
> 
> Any other takers?
> 
> We also have a scope of
> 
> "...open-source software related to security..."
> 
> Thoughts welcome!
> 
> If no more ideas come forth on either of these, I'm going to start a
> vote covering:
> 
> 1.  The proposal - do people support it to go to the board
> 2.  The name
> 3.  A PMC Chair.  My thinking is all current committers 
> become PMC members.
> 
> On #3 - I'm going to volunteer, but I'd also encourage anyone else who
> is interested to put their names or the names of others forward!
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Berin
> 
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> 
> > Here's one i was thinking about - Raksha 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raksha)
> > 
> > thanks,
> > dims
> > 
> > On 3/15/06, Jesse Pelton <jsp@pkc.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>Some random ideas to get the name game going, based on your 
> indicated
> >>vision for the project: "SecureSoft," "Security Software," "Vault,"
> >>"Shield," "Armor," "Guard," "Sanctuary," ,"Citadel," 
> "Surety," "Security
> >>Blanket" (or "Linus," with a nod to Charles Schulz' 
> "Peanuts," but you'd
> >>want to get permission).  With the possible exception of 
> the last, none
> >>of these indulge the Apache penchant for obscure references, though.
> >>
> >>But the name is really the last piece.  You need a clearly 
> articulated
> >>purpose and scope before you can come up with a name that fits.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Berin Lautenbach [mailto:berin@wingsofhermes.org]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:13 AM
> >>To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> >>Subject: Re: TLP Resolution
> >>
> >>Thoughts welcome :>.
> >>
> >>Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>OK - I'm going to take the idea to the board.
> >>>
> >>>Before I do - we need a couple of things.
> >>>
> >>>1.  A name.  I'd personally be against anything fancy or 
> non-obvious.
> >>>But I don't really want to use "Apache Security" as I think it will
> >>>get too confusing against the security group within the 
> ASF (the group
> >>
> >>>that looks after security bug reports etc.)  "Apache Infosec"?
> >>>"Apache Secure"?  Obviously there is a reason I never went into
> >>
> >>marketing :>.
> >>
> >>>2.  A scope.  Probably not hard.  "...open-source software 
> related to
> >>>security..." is a good place to start I suspect :>.
> >>>
> >>>I also wouldn't mind to take some first steps as to what we want to
> >>
> >>do.
> >>
> >>> Obviously set up xml-security and JuiCE, but I'd 
> personally like to
> >>>see the ASF become a source of best practice for security 
> software as
> >>
> >>well.
> >>
> >>> Longer term - but an interesting goal for a tlp within 
> the ASF.  And
> >>>if we are going to use this as an exercise in raising 
> interest in what
> >>
> >>>we are doing inside/outside the ASF, then we want to think 
> about what
> >>>kind of message we want to give people when the project goes to top
> >>
> >>level.
> >>
> >>>I'd also like to use it as a central point people can go 
> to in order
> >>>to see all security related software in the ASF.  Not to 
> have projects
> >>
> >>>like WS-Security under the security project, but to have links to
> >>>other projects/efforts in the ASF that are related to security
> >>
> >>software.
> >>
> >>>Thoughts welcome!
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>      Berin
> >>>
> >>>Ben Laurie wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Dear Ben and Dear Ben,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>what do you guys think? A Security Federation/TLP/PMC. 
> Starting with
> >>>>>Apache XML-Security and Apache Juice.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>It sounds like a very good idea to me, I'd certainly 
> support it. Of
> >>>>course, we already have a CA. Written in, errr, perl :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>Ben.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>thanks,
> >>>>>-- dims
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 3/11/06, Berin Lautenbach <berin@wingsofhermes.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I would be interested in widening it as well - with the 
> proviso that
> >>
> >>>>>>it is like a federation.  I.e. we use it to seed 
> projects then build
> >>
> >>>>>>them and spawn them into TLPs once they grow to size.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I might start sounding some people out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Dims - what's your thoughts?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>On the subject - having spent the most of Saturday 
> searching for a
> >>>>>>decent Open Source CA, I'd now be interested in 
> building one that
> >>>>>>doesn't use &^%$##@^%^ perl.  I.e. do the core in C++ 
> with perl/PHP
> >>>>>>being used for the interfacing only.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>      Berin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Werner Dittmann wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>+1 from me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Just a comment regarding the charter: is it really 
> only Apache XML
> >>>>>>>Security? IMHO this would be a bit too narrow, for 
> example JuiCE is
> >>
> >>>>>>>not dependent on XML, maybe other security related 
> software will be
> >>
> >>>>>>>pop up later as well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I would like to see an "Apache Security" PMC that 
> would address all
> >>
> >>>>>>>kind of security relevant software and act as a solid base
to
> >>>>>>>deliver security functions to other Apache projects. 
> Also we may
> >>>>>>>think to browse existing Apache projects to see if 
> there is already
> >>
> >>>>>>>software (maybe even multiply implemented) and pool them
here.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>BTW, I would be happy to be a part of this activity.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Regards,
> >>>>>>>Werner
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Berin Lautenbach wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Peoples,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Sometime back we talked about becoming a TLP.  With the
recent
> >>>>>>>>JuiCE efforts, + JSR 105 + XKMS we are starting to see
a few
> >>>>>>>>different things occuring.  I'd be hugely in favour 
> of starting
> >>>>>>>>something at a higher level in Apache to get some visibility.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I'm also toying with the idea of creating a broader security
> >>>>>>>>project/federation to encourage that kind of software

> within the
> >>
> >>ASF.
> >>
> >>>>>>>>Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Draft proposal for the board below.  If we want to do

> this - all
> >>>>>>>>active committers will need to vote either on this or

> on a broader
> >>
> >>>>>>>>(or even
> >>>>>>>>narrower!) charter terms of reference that we all can

> agree to.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>   Berin
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in
the best
> >>>>>>>>    interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>>>>>>    Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>    Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of
> >>>>>>>>    open-source software related to XML security technologies,
> >>>>>>>>    for distribution at no charge to the public.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>    Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache XML Security
> >>
> >>PMC",
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of
the
> >>>>>>>>    Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the Apache XML Security PMC be and

> hereby is
> >>>>>>>>    responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>>>>>>>    related to creation and maintenance of 
> open-source software
> >>>>>>>>    related to XML security technologies based on software
> >>
> >>licensed
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    to the Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache
XML
> >>>>>>>>    Security" be and hereby is created, the person 
> holding such
> >>>>>>>>    office to serve at the direction of the Board of

> Directors as
> >>>>>>>>    the chair of the Apache XML Security PMC, and to

> have primary
> >>>>>>>>    responsibility for management of the projects within
the
> >>
> >>scope
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    of responsibility of the Apache XML Security PMC;

> and be it
> >>>>>>>>    further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below
be and
> >>>>>>>>    hereby are appointed to serve as the initial 
> members of the
> >>>>>>>>    Apache XML Security PMC:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <!-- List out all committers in format of
> >>>>>>>>   Berin Lautenbach <berin@wingsofhermes.org> 
-->
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, than ??
> >>>>>>>>    <??@apache.org> appointed to the office of
Vice President,
> >>>>>>>>    Apache XML Security, to serve in accordance with

> and subject
> >>>>>>>>    to the direction of the Board of Directors and 
> the Bylaws of
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,

> removal or
> >>>>>>>>    disqualification, or until a successor is 
> appointed; and be
> >>
> >>it
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security PMC
be and
> >>
> >>hereby
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended
to
> >>>>>>>>    encourage open development and increased 
> participation in the
> >>>>>>>>    Apache XML Security Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security PMC
be and
> >>
> >>hereby
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    is tasked with the migration and rationalization
of the
> >>
> >>Apache
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    XML PMC XML Security subproject; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to 
> the XML XML
> >>>>>>>>    Security sub-project and encumbered upon the 
> Apache XML PMC
> >>
> >>are
> >>
> >>>>>>>>    hereafter discharged.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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