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From Berin Lautenbach <be...@wingsofhermes.org>
Subject Re: VOTE: TLP Resolution
Date Wed, 31 May 2006 11:54:17 GMT
Oops - meant to be formal.

1) +1
2) Santuario (I still like it a lot :>)
3) +1 :>

Berin Lautenbach wrote:

> All,
> 
> I'm going to make this happen by hook or by crook.
> 
> I've floated the idea on board@ and got no objections, so lets make it
> formal.
> 
> All committers need to cast a vote on the following.
> 
> 1) Support for going to TLP as a broad Security project (+1 or -1)
> 2) The name of the project.  See list of proposed names below.
> 3) The chair.  At the moment the only volunteer is myself, so you can
> vote +1/-1 to that or you can propose other names :>.
> 
> I've pasted the board proposal at the end of this email.
> 
> I've included a list of current committers on JuiCE (is this OK?) and
> XML-Security in the PMC list.  To make sure the list is valid, I will be
> using this vote to confirm people are interested in being in the PMC.
> 
> IF YOU DO NOT VOTE I WILL ASSUME THAT YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED ON BEING ON
> THE PMC!  (Sorry for shouting :>.)
> 
> Proposed Names (feel free to add if you have strong feelings) :
> 
> - Raksha
> - Security Software
> - Santuario
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Berin
> 
> 
> 
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> open-source software related to security technologies,
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX>
> PMC", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the Apache <XXX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to creation and maintenance of open-source software
> related to XML security technologies based on software
> licensed to the Foundation; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache <XX INSERT
> NAME XX>" be and hereby is created, the person holding such
> office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as
> the chair of the Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC, and to have primary
> responsibility for management of the projects within the
> scope of responsibility of the Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC; and be it
> further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC:
> 
> Erwin van der Koogh <vdkoogh@apache.org>
> Axl Mattheus <amattheu@apache.org>
> Berin Lautenbach <blautenb@apache.org>
> Vishal Mahajan <vishal@apache.org>
> Davanum Srinivas <dims@apache.org>
> Raul Benito <raul@apache.org>
> Milan Tomic <milan@apache.org>
> Sean Mullan <mullan@apache.org>
> Karel Wouters <kwouters@apache.org>
> Noah Levitt <nlevitt@apache.org>
> Walter Hoehn <wassa@apache.org>
> Werner Dittman <werner@apache.org>
> 
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that <XX INSERT CHAIR XX>
> <??@apache.org> appointed to the office of Vice President,
> Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX>, to serve in accordance with and subject
> to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of
> the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and
> hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
> Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> Project; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache <XX INSERT NAME XX> PMC be and
> hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the
> Apache XML PMC XML Security subproject; and be it further
> 
> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the XML XML
> Security sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache XML PMC
> are hereafter discharged.
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: TLP Resolution
> Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 21:05:09 +1000
> From: Berin Lautenbach <berin@wingsofhermes.org>
> Reply-To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0471B@PKCVT01.pkc.com>
> <19e0530f0604230653u6a57c1e3qd623f5ff7bb39877@mail.gmail.com>
> 
> All,
> 
> So we have two names that people seem to like
> 
> Raksha
> Santuary
> 
> Any other takers?
> 
> We also have a scope of
> 
> "...open-source software related to security..."
> 
> Thoughts welcome!
> 
> If no more ideas come forth on either of these, I'm going to start a
> vote covering:
> 
> 1.  The proposal - do people support it to go to the board
> 2.  The name
> 3.  A PMC Chair.  My thinking is all current committers become PMC members.
> 
> On #3 - I'm going to volunteer, but I'd also encourage anyone else who
> is interested to put their names or the names of others forward!
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Berin
> 
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> 
> 
>>Here's one i was thinking about - Raksha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raksha)
>>
>>thanks,
>>dims
>>
>>On 3/15/06, Jesse Pelton <jsp@pkc.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some random ideas to get the name game going, based on your indicated
>>>vision for the project: "SecureSoft," "Security Software," "Vault,"
>>>"Shield," "Armor," "Guard," "Sanctuary," ,"Citadel," "Surety," "Security
>>>Blanket" (or "Linus," with a nod to Charles Schulz' "Peanuts," but you'd
>>>want to get permission).  With the possible exception of the last, none
>>>of these indulge the Apache penchant for obscure references, though.
>>>
>>>But the name is really the last piece.  You need a clearly articulated
>>>purpose and scope before you can come up with a name that fits.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Berin Lautenbach [mailto:berin@wingsofhermes.org]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:13 AM
>>>To: security-dev@xml.apache.org
>>>Subject: Re: TLP Resolution
>>>
>>>Thoughts welcome :>.
>>>
>>>Berin Lautenbach wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OK - I'm going to take the idea to the board.
>>>>
>>>>Before I do - we need a couple of things.
>>>>
>>>>1.  A name.  I'd personally be against anything fancy or non-obvious.
>>>>But I don't really want to use "Apache Security" as I think it will
>>>>get too confusing against the security group within the ASF (the group
>>>
>>>>that looks after security bug reports etc.)  "Apache Infosec"?
>>>>"Apache Secure"?  Obviously there is a reason I never went into
>>>
>>>marketing :>.
>>>
>>>
>>>>2.  A scope.  Probably not hard.  "...open-source software related to
>>>>security..." is a good place to start I suspect :>.
>>>>
>>>>I also wouldn't mind to take some first steps as to what we want to
>>>
>>>do.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Obviously set up xml-security and JuiCE, but I'd personally like to
>>>>see the ASF become a source of best practice for security software as
>>>
>>>well.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Longer term - but an interesting goal for a tlp within the ASF.  And
>>>>if we are going to use this as an exercise in raising interest in what
>>>
>>>>we are doing inside/outside the ASF, then we want to think about what
>>>>kind of message we want to give people when the project goes to top
>>>
>>>level.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'd also like to use it as a central point people can go to in order
>>>>to see all security related software in the ASF.  Not to have projects
>>>
>>>>like WS-Security under the security project, but to have links to
>>>>other projects/efforts in the ASF that are related to security
>>>
>>>software.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thoughts welcome!
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>     Berin
>>>>
>>>>Ben Laurie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear Ben and Dear Ben,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>what do you guys think? A Security Federation/TLP/PMC. Starting with
>>>>>>Apache XML-Security and Apache Juice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It sounds like a very good idea to me, I'd certainly support it. Of
>>>>>course, we already have a CA. Written in, errr, perl :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ben.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>-- dims
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 3/11/06, Berin Lautenbach <berin@wingsofhermes.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would be interested in widening it as well - with the proviso
that
>>>
>>>>>>>it is like a federation.  I.e. we use it to seed projects then
build
>>>
>>>>>>>them and spawn them into TLPs once they grow to size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I might start sounding some people out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dims - what's your thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On the subject - having spent the most of Saturday searching for
a
>>>>>>>decent Open Source CA, I'd now be interested in building one that
>>>>>>>doesn't use &^%$##@^%^ perl.  I.e. do the core in C++ with
perl/PHP
>>>>>>>being used for the interfacing only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>     Berin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Werner Dittmann wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+1 from me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just a comment regarding the charter: is it really only Apache
XML
>>>>>>>>Security? IMHO this would be a bit too narrow, for example
JuiCE is
>>>
>>>>>>>>not dependent on XML, maybe other security related software
will be
>>>
>>>>>>>>pop up later as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would like to see an "Apache Security" PMC that would address
all
>>>
>>>>>>>>kind of security relevant software and act as a solid base
to
>>>>>>>>deliver security functions to other Apache projects. Also
we may
>>>>>>>>think to browse existing Apache projects to see if there is
already
>>>
>>>>>>>>software (maybe even multiply implemented) and pool them here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW, I would be happy to be a part of this activity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Werner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Berin Lautenbach wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Peoples,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Sometime back we talked about becoming a TLP.  With the
recent
>>>>>>>>>JuiCE efforts, + JSR 105 + XKMS we are starting to see
a few
>>>>>>>>>different things occuring.  I'd be hugely in favour of
starting
>>>>>>>>>something at a higher level in Apache to get some visibility.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm also toying with the idea of creating a broader security
>>>>>>>>>project/federation to encourage that kind of software
within the
>>>
>>>ASF.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Draft proposal for the board below.  If we want to do
this - all
>>>>>>>>>active committers will need to vote either on this or
on a broader
>>>
>>>>>>>>>(or even
>>>>>>>>>narrower!) charter terms of reference that we all can
agree to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>  Berin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the
best
>>>>>>>>>   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>>>>>>>   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>>>>>>>   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
of
>>>>>>>>>   open-source software related to XML security technologies,
>>>>>>>>>   for distribution at no charge to the public.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>>>>>>>   Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache XML Security
>>>
>>>PMC",
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of
the
>>>>>>>>>   Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the Apache XML Security PMC be and hereby
is
>>>>>>>>>   responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>>>>>>>   related to creation and maintenance of open-source
software
>>>>>>>>>   related to XML security technologies based on software
>>>
>>>licensed
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   to the Foundation; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache
XML
>>>>>>>>>   Security" be and hereby is created, the person holding
such
>>>>>>>>>   office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors
as
>>>>>>>>>   the chair of the Apache XML Security PMC, and to have
primary
>>>>>>>>>   responsibility for management of the projects within
the
>>>
>>>scope
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   of responsibility of the Apache XML Security PMC; and
be it
>>>>>>>>>   further
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below
be and
>>>>>>>>>   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members
of the
>>>>>>>>>   Apache XML Security PMC:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><!-- List out all committers in format of
>>>>>>>>>  Berin Lautenbach <berin@wingsofhermes.org>  -->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, than ??
>>>>>>>>>   <??@apache.org> appointed to the office of Vice
President,
>>>>>>>>>   Apache XML Security, to serve in accordance with and
subject
>>>>>>>>>   to the direction of the Board of Directors and the
Bylaws of
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal
or
>>>>>>>>>   disqualification, or until a successor is appointed;
and be
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   further
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security PMC
be and
>>>
>>>hereby
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended
to
>>>>>>>>>   encourage open development and increased participation
in the
>>>>>>>>>   Apache XML Security Project; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache XML Security PMC
be and
>>>
>>>hereby
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of
the
>>>
>>>Apache
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   XML PMC XML Security subproject; and be it further
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the
XML XML
>>>>>>>>>   Security sub-project and encumbered upon the Apache
XML PMC
>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>   hereafter discharged.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>--
>>Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
>>
>>
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