From dev-return-3847-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@royale.apache.org Sun Apr 1 23:20:34 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id C5A09180634 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 23:20:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 3172 invoked by uid 500); 1 Apr 2018 21:20:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@royale.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@royale.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@royale.apache.org Received: (qmail 3155 invoked by uid 99); 1 Apr 2018 21:20:32 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 21:20:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id B4E90180146 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:20:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.879 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.879 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_INFOUSMEBIZ=0.75, KAM_LIVE=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0m0Qh_a-li30 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-f42.google.com (mail-it0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 2E43B5FAD2 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f42.google.com with SMTP id v194-v6so16441726itb.0 for ; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=87PxJBwr7rz6fvN0T/jswYB3iOuUuFzOJ6G8Yv9CV1k=; b=M18yjIxsPJwJW8fdHoKjYDqmrNkbOUYTSs+MkB421QAlwv54MD4gSonZkf9mJS8Cps dfBnRq403afFLfN945ByBUr6UsgYgXeJ8V5uuBm89/EnIJsIUblQTXRtKJCvzQba1VbC o9MKHpU78cPbNEIFNp69ue2GUzz1NbNmVsyO8z+7vRcUudGIg8ZyA+P7pWW3B39XbCiK MvKPBAaSa7qldJ9t1W9G7X/kpx5zIUtTr6C8ctXzGkca9zRXkXDgqbmsm2p4NI+sic6p BqCTvrk5fF04Gg3CxIno1Dg+UoI0vyachm6UvFbZK4/0TmDtZmj8AjLsqOlA1wVCHSOt 16xw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=87PxJBwr7rz6fvN0T/jswYB3iOuUuFzOJ6G8Yv9CV1k=; b=rK8f6u7EqLLdVT4JBh4uu4senrHKNOmb8Gp1IhxbFa/JxewUb99Ujs9+qocBIYtO8o K4IMSaFtO0QsBoLa9W8Z0YwIrdEI88kN62N6KU/QHT31j7OTf9MBYdKwcKrSKhIYtIkD IiH8ZXGVB4itXsZyv41yZRuJc6f5XznISvQZEbdwouN/wGK2Y6YGh+af5zfU5yJMh/eo 2yPIb+kSRMSNVfaMn27/zu8AUkAvi9oClJ/TaDn7gyLa5NnTLDh4R5SN5tx5tr59cwz4 ZpTJZUq4oMX6u2CApOCnbENLJMryBmLwCKZ8XmCN7bW+BHwq0KEMMJozaE6a9sJW+Jgu MWUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7H2sE6sdqLU5YqnxtRVQ5DB7JYwYFolexFDUy5l/BNkxD8+Nloz gZw5q7ZlufDfMvnZqFX01Dm0GqraS6PphIHt4rWx5Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+rkWhCg2oGUlht7ZcZooe5iD/xcLEbLqPLooYOVHqGtNFqhyLU0gAQPUm80Dezgx+C9lIZSRaFbjOdsbgqGmA= X-Received: by 2002:a24:496a:: with SMTP id z103-v6mr9633990ita.133.1522617625765; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.22.5 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2072ACE3-5F3E-4DB8-9430-C43D6C3AAB4E@comcast.net> From: Andrew Wetmore Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 18:20:25 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review To: dev@royale.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b66d2e0568d00a66" --000000000000b66d2e0568d00a66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now. On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore wrote: > I will do a text review very shortly > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher wrote= : > >> Hi Carlos, >> >> Looks good. One comment =E2=80=9Cmore easy=E2=80=9D is better as =E2=80= =9Ceasier=E2=80=9D >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira >> wrote: >> > >> > Ok Dave, >> > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and "n= ot >> > supported", let me know what do you think >> > >> > thanks! >> > >> > Carlos >> > >> > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher : >> > >> >> >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I >> think >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to. >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, a= nd >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs. >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations, >> since a >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white. >> >> >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained as= a >> >> footnote. >> >> >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must >> remain >> >> vendor neutrality. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's >> some >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related. >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more >> related >> >> to >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users >> of >> >> our >> >>> community. >> >>> >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs >> >>> >> >>> thanks >> >>> >> >>> Carlos >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore : >> >>> >> >>>> There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally >> >> support >> >>>> Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you kno= w >> >> what >> >>>> you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the >> >> difference? >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala < >> >> bigosmallm@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira < >> carlosrovira@apache.org> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT >> people >> >>>> are >> >>>>>> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is >> one of >> >>>>>> them. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale. Although I do u= se >> >>>>> Intellij for all my other development. >> >>>>> More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just >> confuse >> >>>> our >> >>>>> users. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS >> >>>> plugin. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>> Om >> >>>>> >> >>>>> P.S. I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via= a >> >>>>> plugin. I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how >> hard it >> >>>> is. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working >> with >> >>>>>> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royal= e >> >>>>> project >> >>>>>> creation, royale library creation,...) >> >>>>>> for me it's ok to list there >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> thanks for your revision! :) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Carlos >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore : >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports >> Royale, >> >>>> so >> >>>>> I >> >>>>>>> just looked at the existing text. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> a >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala < >> >>>>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with >> >>>>>> IntelliJ. >> >>>>>>>> Unless I missed this development? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>>>> Om >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore < >> >>>> cottage14@gmail.com >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I have found the path now. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore < >> >>>>> cottage14@gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely >> >>>>> confusing. >> >>>>>> I >> >>>>>>>>>> cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira < >> >>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's bette= r >> >>>>> that >> >>>>>>> you >> >>>>>>>>>>> correct in the page directly freely. >> >>>>>>>>>>> That would be more quick right? >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks! >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore < >> >>>> cottage14@gmail.com >> >>>>>> : >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with >> >>>>>> suggested >> >>>>>>>>>>> changes >> >>>>>>>>>>>> in about an hour. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore < >> >>>>>>> cottage14@gmail.com >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will take a look >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira < >> >>>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE >> >>>>> pages. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any >> >>>>> spelling >> >>>>>>> you >> >>>>>>>>> want >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly in the website? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Carlos Rovira >> >>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Andrew Wetmore >> >>>> >> >>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Carlos Rovira >> >>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Carlos Rovira >> > http://about.me/carlosrovira >> >> > > > -- > Andrew Wetmore > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ > > > > > --=20 Andrew Wetmore http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ --000000000000b66d2e0568d00a66--