From dev-return-3845-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@royale.apache.org Sun Apr 1 22:54:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 800C1180634 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 22:54:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 81531 invoked by uid 500); 1 Apr 2018 20:54:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@royale.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@royale.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@royale.apache.org Received: (qmail 81507 invoked by uid 99); 1 Apr 2018 20:54:34 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:54:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 7CBA7180146 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 20:54:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.939 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.939 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, KAM_INFOUSMEBIZ=0.75, KAM_LIVE=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ck6d5VvvO32r for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 20:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.165]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 7CF775F260 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2018 20:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.233]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id 2jzafbJdtFaZU2jzifuKMW; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:54:30 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1522616070; bh=c9Ux8ZiMjLMpPhxWqAMsNrjNGBcekQ4SEUrhXrWz4L0=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To: Message-Id; b=EZQ7KPzD8lxcvgFD47Ec0Vq1b3x+tg9EY913jmbN6js4zdJupeqMUSrVUGAUc2Tj0 zLz93Cx6TPTNgX61D7r70M/CXPOdzIzB8vY+ZOFUjpFcs0JvPhC2/BD5b8y+iv+7qe dLsfTdoEUJ2RPhYTp++lMp+/s4PiL1XhzR1Iq8TNYbnYzxSThJTt8FjnvaKw5GPDUV z3l6/rqPIfsdT1j+02OLHL2UKAbuCrjZbwXgXojhqXVEvIi0eXykaUfSAP0oH01ufn aMpBnxEOMSkLD0YHSjowwxtGoE3mhLOMBNf0DrMAWNlcE1BaFt+nKxc4rPzzHT5gVL 5Y7scT9oBBRkA== Received: from [192.168.1.171] ([24.4.64.76]) by resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id 2jxlfWS5UmVPk2jxmfSAfT; Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:52:30 +0000 From: Dave Fisher Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4AB98914-4DAF-4CB0-BB06-EA9DB9009220"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 13:52:29 -0700 References: To: dev@royale.apache.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <2072ACE3-5F3E-4DB8-9430-C43D6C3AAB4E@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfHc1uaPE3MMoqIr5efkv2mEj5WYI46JCbmbtxFSCOnGsf012UA5eQ5OkgSnEsC7lRxgTgeMHv8cAMzQ0UT9GHnMCO5a4q1T2vS1cJZ6qoeSvqRL1jky0 5SsJbNQYwMrenPINSu8IKkEqXBXh7z3xNpem3dQXEiOJsozOgDRoOihN --Apple-Mail=_4AB98914-4DAF-4CB0-BB06-EA9DB9009220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Carlos, Looks good. One comment =E2=80=9Cmore easy=E2=80=9D is better as = =E2=80=9Ceasier=E2=80=9D Regards, Dave > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira = wrote: >=20 > Ok Dave, >=20 > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and = "not > supported", let me know what do you think >=20 > thanks! >=20 > Carlos >=20 >=20 > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher : >=20 >>=20 >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira >> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I = think >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to. >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, = and >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs. >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations, = since a >>> webpage should be simple and black or white. >>=20 >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained as = a >> footnote. >>=20 >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must = remain >> vendor neutrality. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Dave >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's = some >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related. >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more = related >> to >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users = of >> our >>> community. >>>=20 >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs >>>=20 >>> thanks >>>=20 >>> Carlos >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore : >>>=20 >>>> There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally >> support >>>> Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you = know >> what >>>> you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the >> difference? >>>>=20 >>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala < >> bigosmallm@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira = >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT = people >>>> are >>>>>> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is = one of >>>>>> them. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale. Although I do = use >>>>> Intellij for all my other development. >>>>> More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just = confuse >>>> our >>>>> users. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS >>>> plugin. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Om >>>>>=20 >>>>> P.S. I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via = a >>>>> plugin. I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how = hard it >>>> is. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working = with >>>>>> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e = Royale >>>>> project >>>>>> creation, royale library creation,...) >>>>>> for me it's ok to list there >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> thanks for your revision! :) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore : >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports = Royale, >>>> so >>>>> I >>>>>>> just looked at the existing text. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala < >>>>>> bigosmallm@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with >>>>>> IntelliJ. >>>>>>>> Unless I missed this development? >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Om >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore < >>>> cottage14@gmail.com >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> I have found the path now. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore < >>>>> cottage14@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely >>>>> confusing. >>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira < >>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's = better >>>>> that >>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> correct in the page directly freely. >>>>>>>>>>> That would be more quick right? >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore < >>>> cottage14@gmail.com >>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with >>>>>> suggested >>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>>> in about an hour. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore < >>>>>>> cottage14@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will take a look >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira < >>>>>>>>>>> carlosrovira@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE >>>>> pages. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any >>>>> spelling >>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly in the website? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Carlos Rovira >>>>>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -- >>>> Andrew Wetmore >>>>=20 >>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/ >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Carlos Rovira >>> http://about.me/carlosrovira >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Carlos Rovira > http://about.me/carlosrovira --Apple-Mail=_4AB98914-4DAF-4CB0-BB06-EA9DB9009220 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE1wGSaCaYM3G/6+XhMXxt+Dx3Bc8FAlrBRo0ACgkQMXxt+Dx3 Bc+Wtw//e+NJIuTWLotT8k4SvU/EXOD8F9x+x8dvKFHX84fSlW1Z7GNaYFO69+1w R7oTT5K/mHSo4TEtpayUufDXh2lY7GD0SUmjabXl3qxI1gxbDUbCGFU3Xv2Psu9l QNpKpKD7Gv0mgh/rhITYhAkLPtC2D/mkyYjCQylbnZSpJ+HQ+KRbAWLx+H65c5mb VteUwPeUFWrlTUQP1n4PGaLurfaDwxUE11vWCQHO8ON7usGqIHljtRWXQoCfU8dI q/Rw+qv2u/Kxe+22vOf2Dd4j1loynxx52MSN2aWbO+sIVe4ApQwZ6txWXcNZ7CeH Z5Tz9GSocIqqF7Aju09DwztxufOpXcqRSo+HjfoEnsN5ZIsErtS5MUGbriwoVi1P KYvVERm6ll2UEGNm6KXOlTpY5QfoE+VLEOcnfPv4Vrd8ms+TEiSAyHQMADOorkWr PulS75Lt5tXFyst6XHstvPey7JuH6YK6izQO1CjhyS9ze3AOe4f/ZtpCQc4zzHXz B6kO7te2Q2/yOsq4uRnWs5epIEFXQwctNnAPYSjHesh2TcL78WhekgLgxw6DO15V F+HwkHQwj7MkkK68VmwMaC9gObbS45PQbchpwClB6pcteGwcQDd3HRMoGf8qieYf Vu4XGzHsZkjZ0kWOsjGuKa+ZuMKC6q/h0ypmYmpHJOSHs1RODnw= =zevQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_4AB98914-4DAF-4CB0-BB06-EA9DB9009220--