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From: OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:26:50 -0700
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Subject: Re: Apache Royale WebSite Preview
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 7:59 AM, Carlos Rovira <
carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com> wrote:

> Hi Om,
>
> 2017-10-23 2:23 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com>:
>
> > Fantastic work, Carlos!
> >
> > I checked it out on mobile and it looks pretty good there.
> >
>
> Thanks for your words! :)
>
> yes, I put an eye on tablets and mobile, tu set the foundation of all the
> work and get a valid skeleton where bring all the content with some kind =
of
> ease.
>
>
> >
> > I do see a lot of references to Flex in the copy.  Please take a look.
> >
> >
> You refer to footer links? I see on on private page only, If there's more
> please let me know to what you refer. As things continue to evolve we mus=
t
> to continue iterating all the content, so maybe you could have some links
> to apache flex since some things was directly copied from there.
>

I notice two mentions of Flex: https://snag.gy/iQbBCj.jpg

Thanks,
Om


>
>
> > Very inspiring =F0=9F=98=8A
> >
>
> Thanks! :)
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Oct 22, 2017 3:18 PM, "Carlos Rovira" <carlosrovira@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > 2017-10-22 23:58 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > > I don't think so, since Codeoscopic buyed the license already
> > > >
> > > > Just to be clear: You bought the license for the Royale site? Or ar=
e
> > you
> > > > saying that Royale is a =E2=80=9Cclient=E2=80=9D of Codeoscopic?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I buyed a license, is not a client :)
> > > so I can use the license to make this site. At least that is what I
> think
> > > about this, but let's what others have to say (Specialy Dave Fisher) =
on
> > > this regard.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think there's an Jekyll exporter too but we need to check it an=
d
> > see
> > > > how it behaves.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds interesting!
> > > >
> > > > >> 3. What (if any) of the theme can be placed in a public reposito=
ry
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > >> the main site a non-WordPress one? I imagine we=E2=80=99d need t=
o ask both
> > the
> > > > >> publisher of the theme and Apache legal.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we should doesn't do that, since is not what we want,
> > following
> > > > the
> > > > > example exposed before, is like if we use JIRA and for that reaso=
n
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > upload the JIRA code to some of our repos...don't see any reason =
to
> > do
> > > > > that. The site is only for marketing purposes and a tool. The res=
t:
> > > > source
> > > > > code, binaries, wiki, issues, ... is what we produce and we deliv=
er
> > to
> > > > our
> > > > > users.
> > > >
> > > > What I mean is like this:
> > > >
> > > > Currently, the royale.apache.org <http://royale.apache.org/> is
> built
> > > > automatically by committing code here: https://github.com/apache/
> > > > royale-website/tree/asf-site <https://github.com/apache/
> > > > royale-website/tree/asf-site>
> > > >
> > > > Ideally, our main site should be editable by folks simply applying =
a
> > pull
> > > > request on Github. I=E2=80=99m not clear whether the license for th=
e theme
> > would
> > > > allow us to do that by adapting the CSS and JS for a static site. T=
he
> > > > WordPress theme would still be useful as a theme for parts of the
> site
> > > such
> > > > as a blog (and that would not be on a public repo), but I do think =
we
> > > want
> > > > consistent styling across everything.
> > > >
> > > > Makes sense?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Lots of sense, Harbs, but in this case we can change that. If we get
> and
> > > static site, that site will have code that is from a commercial
> product,
> > so
> > > we can't upload nothing. That's what I think.
> > >
> > > In the other hand, we talked about to have a VM with Wordpress and
> there
> > we
> > > can easily (and thanks to what WP offers in terms of ease), create
> post,
> > > modify web parts, change home, and so on, quickly, then export to
> static
> > > and put on royale.apache.org (that is what we really need and is
> > required
> > > by our apache policies).
> > >
> > > We don't need to upload the code site to our repo. That, in my opinio=
n
> is
> > > something that apache offers as a service for each project for people
> > that
> > > wants to develop the entire site and doesn't have any commercial piec=
e.
> > But
> > > in our case, using a commercial WP theme can do, but repeat, I think =
is
> > not
> > > what we do.
> > >
> > > the website, in Royale, Struts, or other projects is only a tool to
> > connect
> > > users and developers with the code, docs, wiki, binaries, issues,
> mailing
> > > list and so on. So is not mandatory to anyone to develop something fr=
om
> > > scratch and upload to an apache repo.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Harbs
> > > >
> > > > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 12:47 AM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrovira@apache.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Harbs,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2017-10-22 23:00 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Very impressive!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The direction is great! Awesome work!
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the Kindly words! :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I do have some questions which I think we need to address:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It looks like you used the Movedo WordPress theme for this[1]
> which
> > > is a
> > > > >> commercial WordPress theme.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This brings up some questions:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Presumably we=E2=80=99d need to buy a license to use it for t=
he
> project.
> > > We=E2=80=99d
> > > > >> need to ask exactly what the right procedure is for doing so.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think so, since Codeoscopic buyed the license already, an=
d
> as
> > > > David
> > > > > Fisher said we can use a commercial projects to market this
> project,
> > > > since
> > > > > is not part of the code of the project, just a tool, like if we u=
se
> > > JIRA
> > > > or
> > > > > Itellij IDEA, or other think like that
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> 2. Does this lock us into WordPress? Would we be able to use the=
se
> > > > design
> > > > >> elements for a =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D site?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to try to use a plugin to export it and create an static
> site,
> > > > > sincerely I never try that before. I think there's an Jekyll
> exporter
> > > too
> > > > > but we need to check it and see how it behaves. In that case, we
> can
> > > > > operate in Wordpress and then export to our production site.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> 3. What (if any) of the theme can be placed in a public reposito=
ry
> > to
> > > > make
> > > > >> the main site a non-WordPress one? I imagine we=E2=80=99d need t=
o ask both
> > the
> > > > >> publisher of the theme and Apache legal.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > I think we should doesn't do that, since is not what we want,
> > following
> > > > the
> > > > > example exposed before, is like if we use JIRA and for that reaso=
n
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > upload the JIRA code to some of our repos...don't see any reason =
to
> > do
> > > > > that. The site is only for marketing purposes and a tool. The res=
t:
> > > > source
> > > > > code, binaries, wiki, issues, ... is what we produce and we deliv=
er
> > to
> > > > our
> > > > > users.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> 4. Have any other projects done something similar to use as a
> policy
> > > > >> trendsetter?
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't know, but what made me work on this was some words from Dav=
e
> > > Fisher
> > > > > in the same line of what I exposed here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's see the rest competing about this :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Harbs
> > > > >>
> > > > >> [1]https://themeforest.net/item/movedo-we-do-move-your-
> > world/17923709
> > > <
> > > > >> https://themeforest.net/item/movedo-we-do-move-your-world/
> 17923709>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Rovira
> > > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> <http://www.codeoscopic.com>
>
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>
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>
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>
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