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From "Christopher Dodunski" <ChrisFromSquir...@christopher.net.nz>
Subject Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Date Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:11:32 GMT
Cool, I look forward to seeing it.  When do you expect Roller 5 to be
released?

Chris.


> Thanks Matt. As you suggested once, that YUI based theme 'fauxcoly' is
> included in Roller 5.
>
> - Dave
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Matt Raible <matt@raibledesigns.com>
> wrote:
>> Just my 2 cents:
>>
>> I've often thought Dave's theme on http://rollerweblogger.com/roller is
>> a nice social (Flickr and Twitter widgets), simple and clean theme.
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Chamberlain
>> <nchamberlain@ceradyne.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris
>>>
>>> I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining
>>> what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is
>>> Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly,
>>> it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to
>>> Roller.
>>>
>>> If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I
>>> would say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet,
>>> understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side.
>>> To many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or,
>>> like you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
>>>
>>> I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only
>>> heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and
>>> NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing
>>> programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
>>>
>>> So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few
>>> recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement
>>> the simple & elegant appearance?
>>>
>>> Nelson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Christopher Dodunski
>>> [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>
>>> Hi Nelson,
>>>
>>> Good question!  I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and
>>> elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface.  Many webpages have
>>> clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end
>>> result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper.  Neither simple nor
>>> elegant.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet
>>> elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
>>>
>>> I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful.
>>>  But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard.
>>>  What can we do to help fix this situation.  Decide on a great
>>> wordpress theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist
>>> perhaps?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chris Dodunski.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
>>>> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
>>>> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or
>>>> modifiability?
>>>>
>>>> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
>>>> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
>>>> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
>>>> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>>>>
>>>> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>>>>
>>>> Nelson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
>>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>>
>>>> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good
>>>> themes.
>>>> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
>>>> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
>>>> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps...
>>>>
>>>> - Dave
>>>>
>>>> Template authors guide:
>>>>
>>>> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
>>>> oller-template-guide.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>> <ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>>>>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>>>>> especially Apache ones.  So far I'm impressed with the administration
>>>>> interface and documentation.  But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>>>>> and so I downloaded those from
>>>>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>>>>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>>>>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there?  Does anyone have
>>>>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share?  I
>>>>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>>>>> for visual design).  Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>>>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>>>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line
to
>>>>>> the config file for each.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>>>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know
how
>>>>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as
I
>>>>>> use it on my blog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>>>>>    http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>>>> <ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server.  I read that Roller
>>>>>>> supports multiple blogs.  My web server hosts several domains.
 I
>>>>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for
each
>>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller?
 Or
>>>>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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