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From "Christopher Dodunski" <ChrisFromSquir...@christopher.net.nz>
Subject Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
Date Fri, 24 Sep 2010 23:09:42 GMT
I just see a placeholder at that URL.  Correct domain?


> Just my 2 cents:
>
> I've often thought Dave's theme on http://rollerweblogger.com/roller is a
> nice social (Flickr and Twitter widgets), simple and clean theme.
>
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Nelson Chamberlain
> <nchamberlain@ceradyne.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris
>>
>> I like what you say about simple & elegant. The hard part is defining
>> what those mean. To my mind, the theme that best fits these goals is
>> Ocadia (from OptionalThemesForRoller referenced below). Interestingly,
>> it says that it was originally developed for Wordpress and ported to
>> Roller.
>>
>> If I were to try to define what elements make it appear elegant, I would
>> say that the muted colors and gradient fills that give it quiet,
>> understated beauty. I also liked the rounded boxes on the right side. To
>> many of the other themes seem to be shouting for my attention, or, like
>> you say, are busy and noisy as the front page of a newspaper.
>>
>> I haven't had the pleasure of using IDEA from IntelliJ but I have only
>> heard good things about it. I generally have been using Eclipse and
>> NetBeans. Eclipse for general programming and NetBeans for Swing
>> programming. They are quite good but utilitarian and not elegant.
>>
>> So do you have a Wordpress theme that you prefer? Or a few
>> recommendations for me to look at to see what blogs you feel implement
>> the simple & elegant appearance?
>>
>> Nelson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Dodunski [mailto:ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:10 PM
>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>
>> Hi Nelson,
>>
>> Good question!  I wrote "clean and attractive" implying simplicity and
>> elegance - the hallmark of any good user interface.  Many webpages have
>> clearly had a lot of effort poured into them, but too often the end
>> result is as busy as the front page of a newspaper.  Neither simple nor
>> elegant.
>>
>> Incidentally, my preferred Java IDE is also based on a simple yet
>> elegant user interface: IntelliJ IDEA.
>>
>> I've been using Roller for around a week, and think it is wonderful.
>> But, in my opinion, the four bundled themes don't cut the mustard.  What
>> can we do to help fix this situation.  Decide on a great wordpress
>> theme, and replicate it with a distinctive 'roller' twist perhaps?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris Dodunski.
>>
>>
>>> I am curious if there consensus on what makes a good theme. Is it
>>> strictly the attractiveness of the theme? Or how clean and uncluttered
>>> the page templates are that implement the theme? Maintainability or
>>> modifiability?
>>>
>>> My own opinion is I could live with something that is less attractive
>>> if the theme is easy to modify and maintain (easy to find the style
>>> statements that control an element's appearance). I can add as much
>>> prettiness as I want, but only if I can find where the controls are.
>>>
>>> What do the rest of you think makes a clean and attractive theme?
>>>
>>> Nelson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dave [mailto:snoopdave@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 2:17 PM
>>> To: user@roller.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Seeking clean, attractive Roller 4.0 theme
>>>
>>> That is definitely one of the drawbacks of Roller: very few good
>>> themes.
>>> RollerThemes.com addressed that problem to some extent, but now it is
>>> gone. On the bright side, Velocity is fairly easy to learn and its not
>>> that hard to "port" themes from Wordpress and other places.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps...
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>> Template authors guide:
>>>
>>> ftp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/roller/roller-4/v4.0.1/docs/r
>>> oller-template-guide.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>> <ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I chose Roller over Wordpress due to the fact that I am a Java
>>>> developer, and I always like to support open-source projects -
>>>> especially Apache ones.  So far I'm impressed with the administration
>>>> interface and documentation.  But the packaged themes didn't appeal,
>>>> and so I downloaded those from
>>>> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javanet/OptionalThemesForRoller.
>>>> But many of these also don't appeal and/or don't work (e.g. state
>>>> comments are closed when they are not).
>>>>
>>>> Is there another source of Roller themes out there?  Does anyone have
>>>> an attractive, clean and elegant theme they would like to share?  I
>>>> don't really have the time to learn Velocity (nor do I have the flair
>>>> for visual design).  Your help/guidance would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The current release of Roller, 4.0.1, cannot do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> The upcoming Roller 5 will support multiple domains, but has rather
>>>>> simple-minded support, there are some limitations and will only work
>>>>> well if you have a handful of blogs and don't mind adding a line to
>>>>> the config file for each.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're interested in helping us work the kinks out of it, then
>>>>> please test the Roller 5 release candidate (RC2) and let us know how
>>>>> it goes. I can tell you know to configure multi-domain support as I
>>>>> use it on my blog.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roller 5 RC2 announcement:
>>>>>    http://markmail.org/message/yrlfct6t6xn5rsic
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Christopher Dodunski
>>>>> <ChrisFromSquirrel@christopher.net.nz> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to use Roller on my web server.  I read that Roller
>>>>>> supports multiple blogs.  My web server hosts several domains.  I
>>>>>> would like to know whether I need to install Roller anew for each
>>>>>> domain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To use the following domains as examples:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.domain1.com
>>>>>> http://www.domain2.com
>>>>>> http://www.domain3.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each is to have its own independent blog page, like so:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://blog.domain1.com
>>>>>> http://blog.domain2.com
>>>>>> http://blog.domain3.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can this be accomplished with a single installation of Roller?  Or
>>>>>> do I need to install Roller for each domain?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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