Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-roller-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 61920 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2008 13:13:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Mar 2008 13:13:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 42222 invoked by uid 500); 26 Mar 2008 13:13:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-roller-dev-archive@roller.apache.org Received: (qmail 42204 invoked by uid 500); 26 Mar 2008 13:13:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@roller.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@roller.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@roller.apache.org Received: (qmail 42195 invoked by uid 99); 26 Mar 2008 13:13:49 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:13:49 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of mccloud35@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.236 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.236] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.236) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:13:00 +0000 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c57so2692865wra.9 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:13:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5CP9UMyP03GfEPq211SwK3kWFuHmY0sO4FJJazU49+U=; b=LBu135MmD9Mqqf55ENDDjbzZSK5STz8MYOO655ay641OjcPwQDtSqzGk9UcorA43yGI1DjynPCxmt+4yeNcOQGDmSW+1Zcsw0EH2QFeKDO1ZMqQNbRMRWjtCdRjmipkUy7U7l6nYi0yEl/ixq9xcAcsda1MVj5ZbK00Ykpq6Ab4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sGD8VXz6vDRp7ALDgO53gSqNHsKasJsX0Zv5aVjSJ43gQFr9fjOdF5hwbmrADcaI+3SLHEy+W1WtWIOuqNzYKDKodd41AF7heC+DK90P1VfxYaNxkC0G4PKmiLTT+giTPgUfmyUd3rr6vmQS6LE5vZBmcuxQ9E4/+F6+gVAcNHI= Received: by 10.141.79.12 with SMTP id g12mr31574rvl.29.1206537183166; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.34.15 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <61d2e9b20803260613s2ac9db5atc63c1a012f198888@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:43:03 +0530 From: "Tharindu Mathew" To: dev@roller.apache.org Subject: Re: Another idea In-Reply-To: <8fb9ac720803251343g53ae15e1s7f63528d83459d39@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1749_3489243.1206537183141" References: <47E8AA24.20908@gmail.com> <8fb9ac720803251343g53ae15e1s7f63528d83459d39@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_1749_3489243.1206537183141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Maven would make the source considerable smaller, and saves a lot of hard coding. But Ivy my provide a compromise. Lots of people against maven are thinking of Ivy. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Dave wrote: > I was very reluctant to switch to Maven, especially when Allen was > away and could not comment.I definitely like the idea of smaller SVN > size (i.e. no jars), auto-generating IDE project files and the Maven > support in Netbeans looks pretty nice. > > I'm willing to reconsider now, since there is so much interest and > since Jencks and Raible have considerable Maven experience and could > help us along. Perhaps we could try Maven and Ant side-by-side for a > while until we are comfortable, I think that's what Abdera is doing? > > - Dave > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David Jencks > wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 25, 2008, at 6:51 AM, Pavel Konnikov wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:30:44 +0300, Kirill Kosinov > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Good day. > > >> > > >> Unfortunately i didn't receive any reply to my previous post, so i > > >> may conclude > > >> that previous idea is uninteresting. So i decided to propose > > >> another one. > > >> When i downloaded sources of roller i saw that building and > > >> configuring of project is not very comfortable. > > >> I think that storing jar's in svn looks not good. > > >> Today many apache projects use maven for building, and i wonder > > >> why roller doesn't? > > >> I used appfuse and the way in which maven is used there looks great. > > >> So i propose to improve roller build scripts. If this idea is not > > >> enough for gsoc, > > >> it may be only my issue to roller's community. > > >> > > > Imho, migration roller to maven2 is cool idea! > > > Maven2 for java projects is standart de facto. > > > > See https://issues.apache.org/roller/browse/ROL-1537 > > > > Although the main developers don't seem inclined to consider maven, > > IIUC they have shown more willingness to consider use of ivy to get > > jars from a maven repo and restructuring the directory layout to > > provide a slight correspondence between the project structure and the > > artifacts it produces. > > > > Ivy shouldn't be too hard to introduce by means of patches. > > Rearranging stuff is a bit harder to do unless you are a committer. > > I guess you could supply a script full of "svn mv A B" that a > > committer could run. > > > > It's possible that if the project structure got disentangled so it > > had the same form as a maven project the comparative simplicity of > > maven configuration over ant scripts would become sufficiently > > evident that the main developers would reconsider the use of maven. > > > > thanks > > david jencks > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards. Pavel Konnikov > > > > > -- Regards, Tharindu ------=_Part_1749_3489243.1206537183141--